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    Quote Originally Posted by sanjuro_ronin View Post
    Or who is to say the contrary?
    Those who demand that burden of proof violators be burned at the stake.

    Burden of proof fallacies are fundamentally, and irreversibly flawed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drake View Post
    Those who demand that burden of proof violators be burned at the stake.

    Burden of proof fallacies are fundamentally, and irreversibly flawed.
    Mmmmm..steak....
    I have no issues with someone demanding proof of what can be proven or at least evidence of course.
    As long as they make it clear what evidence THEY will accept.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sanjuro_ronin View Post
    Mmmmm..steak....
    I have no issues with someone demanding proof of what can be proven or at least evidence of course.
    As long as they make it clear what evidence THEY will accept.
    Without evidence, and using the burden of proof logical fallacy, Jesus has no more or less of a chance of being the son of god than Bugs Bunny, Danny DeVito, or Eddie Murphy.

    I can tell you that my "supreme spiritual leader" rose from the grave, and was sent by god to forgive us of our sins, as long as we swear allegiance to him and only him. My evidence? - BECAUSE I ****ING SAID SO, THAT'S MY EVIDENCE!! KNEEL! KNNNEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEL!!!!!
    The weakest of all weak things is a virtue that has not been tested in the fire.
    ~ Mark Twain

    Everyone has a plan until they’ve been hit.
    ~ Joe Lewis

    A warrior may choose pacifism; others are condemned to it.
    ~ Author unknown

    "You don't feel lonely.Because you have a lively monkey"

    "Ninja can HURT the Spartan, but the Spartan can KILL the Ninja"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drake View Post
    Without evidence, and using the burden of proof logical fallacy, Jesus has no more or less of a chance of being the son of god than Bugs Bunny, Danny DeVito, or Eddie Murphy.

    I can tell you that my "supreme spiritual leader" rose from the grave, and was sent by god to forgive us of our sins, as long as we swear allegiance to him and only him. My evidence? - BECAUSE I ****ING SAID SO, THAT'S MY EVIDENCE!! KNEEL! KNNNEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEL!!!!!
    So, what evidence would be enough for you? what would you view as evidence?

    This line of thought actually has quite a bit to do with MA because we are always asking for evidence and proof of claims in MA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sanjuro_ronin View Post
    So, what evidence would be enough for you? what would you view as evidence?

    This line of thought actually has quite a bit to do with MA because we are always asking for evidence and proof of claims in MA.
    God revealing himself. Wouldn't be hard. Appear in the sky, say "I exist. Jesus is my son. Bye!" and vanish.

    And if that doesn't work, how about something tangible (like solid evidence, ie, items) aside from hearsay?
    The weakest of all weak things is a virtue that has not been tested in the fire.
    ~ Mark Twain

    Everyone has a plan until they’ve been hit.
    ~ Joe Lewis

    A warrior may choose pacifism; others are condemned to it.
    ~ Author unknown

    "You don't feel lonely.Because you have a lively monkey"

    "Ninja can HURT the Spartan, but the Spartan can KILL the Ninja"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drake View Post
    God revealing himself. Wouldn't be hard. Appear in the sky, say "I exist. Jesus is my son. Bye!" and vanish.

    And if that doesn't work, how about something tangible (like solid evidence, ie, items) aside from hearsay?
    Personal revelation?
    Psalms 144:1
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    You really have to appreciate how a tangent about IQ served as a segue between Religion and Politics.

    With a little bit of Planned Parenthood for good measure. The hell?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sanjuro_ronin View Post
    Personal revelation?
    Uh... no. When I was kid I used to think Optimus Prime was real. I really believed it, too.
    The weakest of all weak things is a virtue that has not been tested in the fire.
    ~ Mark Twain

    Everyone has a plan until they’ve been hit.
    ~ Joe Lewis

    A warrior may choose pacifism; others are condemned to it.
    ~ Author unknown

    "You don't feel lonely.Because you have a lively monkey"

    "Ninja can HURT the Spartan, but the Spartan can KILL the Ninja"

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    I think that hearing god or seeing god amounts to being diagnosed with schizophrenia these days.

    Feeling god though?
    Kung Fu is good for you.

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    So what about mind, body, spirit in martial arts? Mind and body we probably all understand about the same...what about 'spirit' though? Is it emotion? Intent? something else? Is it real?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShaolinDan View Post
    So what about mind, body, spirit in martial arts? Mind and body we probably all understand about the same...what about 'spirit' though? Is it emotion? Intent? something else? Is it real?
    It jacks a $20 lesson up to a $50 one
    The weakest of all weak things is a virtue that has not been tested in the fire.
    ~ Mark Twain

    Everyone has a plan until they’ve been hit.
    ~ Joe Lewis

    A warrior may choose pacifism; others are condemned to it.
    ~ Author unknown

    "You don't feel lonely.Because you have a lively monkey"

    "Ninja can HURT the Spartan, but the Spartan can KILL the Ninja"

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    If there is a God and if he is the creator of all things, then we are all children of God. Not just Jesus!

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    I know Kali Ma is real because when I gave my blood to her she appeared to me in a dream vision and destroyed my fear to give birth to my bravery and shows me that all is as it will be and death awaits with its sweet embrace of the next beginning. Then she kills me.
    For whoso comes amongst many shall one day find that no one man is by so far the mightiest of all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucas View Post
    I know Kali Ma is real because when I gave my blood to her she appeared to me in a dream vision and destroyed my fear to give birth to my bravery and shows me that all is as it will be and death awaits with its sweet embrace of the next beginning. Then she kills me.
    What does Kali smell like? If she can't get past my nose then I can't accept her as my deity!

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    she smells like honey, vanilla, death and new babies.
    For whoso comes amongst many shall one day find that no one man is by so far the mightiest of all.

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