Roundhouse kick technique

[SevenStar]

Well that isnt the front of the leg now is it. Nor is it shallow as a matter of fact the sciatic nerve originates in the Low Back and splits in the thigh area and sooner so again I ask where is the sciatic nerve the most vulnerable and most shallow?? And where would YOU kick it KC Hint I am going to kick your Butt haha

I'm lost now... who said it was in the front?

[Becca]

I think he's confused. I mentioned that I didn't like to take hits on the front thigh of my support leg right after stating that there was plenty of superficial nerves in the lateral thigh. post# 41.

[kwaichang]

Here is the response I am searching for. I have never seen a fighter good enough in MMA or MT to kick the sciatic nerve. It is too deep in the leg to be attacked independently and damage done to it. The Sciatic nerve does not extend into the lower leg below the knee it splits prior to that and becomes the tibial and deep peroneal prior to that it becomes the Femoral and Obturator If you want to call it the Sciatic thats OK but you are wrong.
The only one to "GET" it was JP the nerve is best attacked where the hollow of the glutes are at or below the sciatic notch. The nerve it self is so small in diameter that I feel what you are doing is traumatizing the surrounding Muculature and causing a charley horse effect . Also if you are fighting and you turn your thigh into the counter kick sure you will protect the IT Band but put your knee at jeopardy , your choice though. KC

[SevenStar]

Here is the response I am searching for. I have never seen a fighter good enough in MMA or MT to kick the sciatic nerve. It is too deep in the leg to be attacked independently and damage done to it. The Sciatic nerve does not extend into the lower leg below the knee it splits prior to that and becomes the tibial and deep peroneal prior to that it becomes the Femoral and Obturator If you want to call it the Sciatic thats OK but you are wrong.

1. kicking below the knee is NOT what we are referring to.

2. the sciatic is used as a reference point. The heart punch I'd imagine was named with a similar idea in mind. the liver punch may have been also, since some of that is actually under the ribcage. Regardless, you feel pain.

The only one to "GET" it was JP the nerve is best attacked where the hollow of the glutes are at or below the sciatic notch. The nerve it self is so small in diameter that I feel what you are doing is traumatizing the surrounding Muculature and causing a charley horse effect . Also if you are fighting and you turn your thigh into the counter kick sure you will protect the IT Band but put your knee at jeopardy , your choice though. KC

keep the knee raised or bent.

[kwaichang]

yOU CANNOT BEND THE HIP AND KNEE IF YOU ARE STANDING ON IT TO KICK WITH THE OTHER LEG. KC

[monji112000]

I like to pivot.

Bas Rutten says it's not necessary.

Bas has massive power in his kicks. I honestly think its a matter of preference. My round kicks suck so don't listen to me.

[Drake]

Bas has massive power in his kicks. I honestly think its a matter of preference. My round kicks suck so don't listen to me.

Where do you have trouble? Mine is maintaining control after execution of the kick. Leg just doesn't want to stop after the target.

[mkriii]

If you don't pivot the foot when doing that kick it appears to me that you would be putting undue stress on the leg because your twisting your leg from the ankle up to get that rotation needed to throw that round kick to compensate for not pivoting the foot. It looks like that it would hurt your knee in the long run. You have to have that rotation in order to get the correct angle for your foot for it to be a roundhouse kick. Am I explaining myself clearly.....lol???

[monji112000]

Where do you have trouble? Mine is maintaining control after execution of the kick. Leg just doesn't want to stop after the target.

LOL I'm not even sure about the kick (so don't listen to me really).

Why stop after the target? why not just kick through it?

I have less pressure on my knee if I pre-turn my foot and don't use the balls of my feet.

[SevenStar]

yOU CANNOT BEND THE HIP AND KNEE IF YOU ARE STANDING ON IT TO KICK WITH THE OTHER LEG. KC

Okay, we're back to the base leg now... I think that may be where confusion is. the discussion went from base leg to the blocking leg at various points... the kick to the sciatic is NOT kicking the base leg - it's a target for a leg kick on a leg that is planted. (Now I see why you mentioned kicking below the new a few posts up)

If you are doing any type of raised leg block, or even kicking above knee level you are putting that leg at risk for a cut kick to the base leg. From a CMA perspective, the golden rooster stance comes to mind. the base leg is wide open.

[SevenStar]

If you don't pivot the foot when doing that kick it appears to me that you would be putting undue stress on the leg because your twisting your leg from the ankle up to get that rotation needed to throw that round kick to compensate for not pivoting the foot. It looks like that it would hurt your knee in the long run. You have to have that rotation in order to get the correct angle for your foot for it to be a roundhouse kick. Am I explaining myself clearly.....lol???

When you step without the pivot (I think I mentioned this in an earlier post) you step outward at an angle. your foot will already be in the position it would be if you used a pivot.

[Judge Pen]

When you step without the pivot (I think I mentioned this in an earlier post) you step outward at an angle. your foot will already be in the position it would be if you used a pivot.

Which is how I usually throw a roundhouse kick. It works for me because my flexibility is less than optimal and concealing the turn of the foot in a step (while using hands/other techniques as a set up) allows me to cheat my hips open and fire a kick faster without having to pivot during the motion of the kick itself.

From the way I was first taught to throw a roundhouse kick, I always thought this was "cheating" but it worked for me so I keep doing it.

[SevenStar]

so do I, unless I am throwing a lead leg kick.

[Lucas]

So what do you do if you dont have room/time to take that step...do you pivot then?

My pivot happens as the leg comes up for the kick, so its not telegraphing anything the leg isnt....

[Lucas]

messing around in the office i noticed that:

when i do take a step forward i step at a 45 degree angle then pivot the rest as my leg leaves the ground.