Hung Gar

[Indrafist]

well.....some TF schools like to refer to their HG as "orthodox," and LSW as "Modified."
Similar to how some WC schools like to refer to themselves as "traditional," and others as..um, not.

when it comes down to it, it's just marketing, and personal pride.
Not important in the grand scheme of things, just important enough to create bickering.

The best thing is to realize that all Hung-Ga is one family. Enjoy the differences, keep an open mind.

Well said as the truth.

[LaterthanNever]

Firehawk,

http://weito.org/lineage.htm

[PM]

well.....some TF schools like to refer to their HG as "orthodox," and LSW as "Modified."
Similar to how some WC schools like to refer to themselves as "traditional," and others as..um, not.

when it comes down to it, it's just marketing, and personal pride.
Not important in the grand scheme of things, just important enough to create bickering.

The best thing is to realize that all Hung-Ga is one family. Enjoy the differences, keep an open mind.

well said, TT!

[mickey]

Greetings,

I do not know if this was posted before. The performer has great intention. If each was done in one take, then I am very impressed. I never knew Hung Gar forms were this long.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzu1o...eature=related


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lP-ac...eature=related

Enjoy!

mickey

[ShaolinDan]

If they were done in one take, then the camera angle wouldn't change so much. Frankly, it looks to me like they played with the video speed as well.
It's a shame people with good kung fu can't be happy with what they have, but need to pretend it's off the charts.

[Subitai]

1st gut reaction of course is there is NO need for sound effects.

2nd, and this is just a theory.... this dude looks and moves like one of the MANY layman martial (some just touring doing shows) monks.

or like Gene once said to me back in 98'... "At any time Shaolin and the immediate surrounding area will have about 10,000 martial students all training in some way, shape or form" (something to that effect) = Well what I mean is, he looks like a product of all that hard work but someone has taught him some Hung.


Now, I would not dare to do a common Wing Chun arguing tatic IE...
if your WC doesn't look like mine then it's not real WC. (I give Sanjuro credit for that)

I can't say it's not Hung Gar forms, because they are basically and "To each his own I say". The 1st vid being Gung Gee... and the second Fu Hok...

All I needed to see was the opening salute moves and I kinda already know where he got his stuff from. Not all Hung's do those begining moves that way.

Technically speaking,
-It's a common misconception that Hung utilizes low and wide stances all the time. But what isn't or shouldn't be ignored is smooth and solid transition of the footwork, these should never be compromised just for the sake of being (or looking) very fast. I can move that fast easy...but my focus would be off.

- I think all the guys who actually study Hung (At least the traditional orthodox ones) will agree with me that the focus of his bridges was too rushed.

- Lastly, I cannot get past the wushu pacing PLUS so many other things...
Just my opinion only.

[omarthefish]

If they were done in one take, then the camera angle wouldn't change so much. Frankly, it looks to me like they played with the video speed as well.
It's a shame people with good kung fu can't be happy with what they have, but need to pretend it's off the charts.

Yeah. All the special effects are just goofy and really prevent me from taking the video seriously.

[ShaolinDan]

- I think all the guys who actually study Hung (At least the traditional orthodox ones) will agree with me that the focus of his bridges was too rushed.

- Lastly, I cannot get past the wushu pacing PLUS so many other things...
Just my opinion only.

It's sped up.

As far as sound effects...I watched it without sound the first time. Frickin' hilarious with sound.

[HungKuenH]

hung kuen sets played with wushu flavour...like a nan quan form

[Dragonzbane76]

Yes some of the Hung forms are pretty long.
Also these were not shot in one take. If you watch the background you see something don't match up. I think the speed on the camera might have been adjusted, can't really tell.

[EarthDragon]

Mickey... that form impressed you? may I was why other than the length? as others have said it wasnt really a form it was a cut and cropped speeded up part of a movie dragons of the orient

[David Jamieson]

wushufied hung kuen.
bodybuilding jings as opposed to correct jings.

sounds can be used to vibrate internally, but this guy was just making noise.

set one was gung gee fook fu kuen, set two was fu hok seurng ying kuen

you can play them like that if you desire, but by my reckoning and having seen some very excellent renditions of these moving concepts this is not a great demonstration of the style.

[mickey]

EarthDragon,

I really like the guy's intention. He has a sense of the opponent. I have seen people move without purpose TOO MANY TIMES. As to the forms themselves, I do not know them to comment on them.

I did notice the different camera angles. I assumed that there was more that one camera working.


mickey

[GeneChing]

1st gut reaction of course is there is NO need for sound effects.

Come on now, bro. I have a fond memory of you and I watched a noted HG master's vid where he added sound effects in his applications, including the classic spine crackle when he did a neck break. And we loved it.

1st gut reaction of course is there is NO need for sound effects.

or like Gene once said to me back in 98'... "At any time Shaolin and the immediate surrounding area will have about 10,000 martial students all training in some way, shape or form" (something to that effect) = Well what I mean is, he looks like a product of all that hard work but someone has taught him some Hung.

Something to that effect? For the record, as of our last Shaolin Special, the population of full-time martial arts students in the Dengfeng area near to Shaolin is 60,000.

P.S. I'm moving this to the southern forum.

[TenTigers]

very realistic video game.
Strong horse.
Elbows indicate that it is an accomplished athlete performing a form as he was taught.