Hung Gar

[David Jamieson]

lkfmdc

oh no dear god please don't report me to the martial arts police.

go ahead keep flapping your face and quoting things out of context

what?? you belong to more forums?? wow if you only put that time into peddling your dvds you would probably get some where

Im sure all the members of the CKKA after 50 years are shaking in there silk pjs

Im tired of talking to haters

I think its just jealousy I dont know why some people would get all upset to this degree about another persons school.

well good luck and I hope you find what your looking for.

well, i don't take issue with a school. Martial arts is an unregulated industry and anybody can offer and teach what they like. However, it is not cool to associate oneself with an established clan when they are not actually part of that clan, have never been invested into that clan and have no right making claim to the materials of that clan.

So, if the Chong's have a viable system of martial arts that they created and systematized and now teach and propagate, that's fine. Call it what it is that's all.

Dave can be abrasive, but if you want to shut him up, then put up the propers and that will be that.

In the meantime, that lineage chart is a huge insult as it sits at this time.

[Tid Sin]

As previously mentioned by other posters, the lineage chart is inaccurate & incorrect, as far as the Lam Gar lineage is indicated. Anyone involved in Cantonese Hung Kuen would know the flow of the chart to be incorrect. Thus, it is undoubtedly obvious that whomever put the lineage chart together is not involved in Cantonese Hung Kuen. It was probably assumed that nobody in Canada practiced Hung Kuen and, furthermore, that nobody who did so would come across the chart. Such is not the case.

It should either be amended or removed altogether. Its existence as it stands today only propogates false info and claims about an authentic & verifiable Hung Gar line.

The Chong line has a right to exist & operate, as does anybody else. People will join & follow whomever they choose. Caveat emptor.

Any group can put anything down online, but can anything be verified? Proof? If a link to Li Sai Wing (whomever that is with the Mandarin "Li" surname and Cantonese "Sai Wing" names) is claimed, so be it. At this point, his existence cannot be refuted. Nor can it be confirmed.

However, the Lam Gar should be left out of it, as it has nothing to do with the CKKA. Is Lam Jo aware of what's falsely written about his family on the lineage chart? From Lam Jo onwards to the other Sifus of the Lam Gar, do any of them even know anything about the CKKA? Do they have any get-togethers and share the same gung fu? I wonder if they'd be willing to meet members of the Lam Gar and present their lineage chart as it is and stand by their claims?

If the info is inaccurate, then it would seem that the only reason for it having been included was to mislead potential and current members by seeking recognition through association with an already long-established & reputable family line, albeit unbeknownst to them.

After all of that, nothing's going to change

[TenTigers]

knowing the way some pseudo-Kung-Fu people operate, it would not surprise me in the least if they wrote Li Sai-Wing, not realizing that Sai-Wing is not the surname, but Lam. I have seen this happen with people stating Hung-Ga was named after Wong Fei-Hung.
I hope I am incorrect in this.

[lkfmdc]

And who are you to call other schools Mc dojos? You practically wish your school was a Mc dojo

Don’t worry I will buy one of your Mc Dvds from your jumping On the band wagon wanna be Mc MMA school.

I'm sending you a dollar so you can buy a clue

LMFAO @ calling me a McDojo

I have a student who is a pro MMA fighter, just fought last weekend in Atlantic City for Lou Neglia's "Ring of Combat" - www.ringofcombat.com

I have a student who is the USKBA NATIONAL Muay Thai champion

I've had three world champs in San Da, 19 national champions

I currently have 25 active amateur fighters

Ask masterkiller, winterpalm, lama pai sifu, or a ton of others who have been in my gym - if I"m a mcdojo then the Russian tea room serves fries

LMFAO @ this pathetic loser

[lkfmdc]

Funny how everyone but "dim wit" understands what is going on here

However, it is not cool to associate oneself with an established clan when they are not actually part of that clan, have never been invested into that clan and have no right making claim to the materials of that clan.

So, if the Chong's have a viable system of martial arts that they created and systematized and now teach and propagate, that's fine. Call it what it is that's all.

Dave can be abrasive, but if you want to shut him up, then put up the propers and that will be that.

In the meantime, that lineage chart is a huge insult as it sits at this time.

and

As previously mentioned by other posters, the lineage chart is inaccurate & incorrect, as far as the Lam Gar lineage is indicated. Anyone involved in Cantonese Hung Kuen would know the flow of the chart to be incorrect. Thus, it is undoubtedly obvious that whomever put the lineage chart together is not involved in Cantonese Hung Kuen. It was probably assumed that nobody in Canada practiced Hung Kuen and, furthermore, that nobody who did so would come across the chart. Such is not the case.

It should either be amended or removed altogether. Its existence as it stands today only propogates false info and claims about an authentic & verifiable Hung Gar line.

(snip)

If the info is inaccurate, then it would seem that the only reason for it having been included was to mislead potential and current members by seeking recognition through association with an already long-established & reputable family line, albeit unbeknownst to them.

Apparently "dim wit" can't figure the above out

[Tid Sin]

...I have seen this happen with people stating Hung-Ga was named after Wong Fei-Hung.

You mean it isn't?!?

[lkfmdc]

You mean it isn't?!?

it was named after the famos Cantonese playboy So Well-Hung

[hskwarrior]

Nah, thats my Korean name and you got it wrong.......

SO DAM HUNG........get it right!!!!

My Chinese name is Hung So Lo .......and i'm proud to be Hung (洪)

[CLFNole]

You forgot the Japanese samuari with 1 nut called Swung Too Lo.

[Tid Sin]

Yeah........and Harrison Ford should get rid of Ally McBeal and go Hand Solo

William Hung? "She bangs, she bangs..."

[lkfmdc]

this just in!

EXCLUSIVE!

the real name of "dim wit"'s sifu

Sum Ting Wong

[htowndragon]

no dude, he lineage jumped. His real sifu was Sum Ho, Sum Ting Wong's student.

Except Sum Ho wouldn't even claim him, so that's pretty sad.

[lkfmdc]

no, no, no

his teacher is the son of Sum Dum Ho.....

[TenTigers]

I believe Sum Dum Ho's student was Doo Me Nao, who taught Hu Flung Dung. The system migrated to Viet Nam and was later taught by Suc Muc Dik.
This style then was brought to Okinawa. One of their weapon sets, Yo Mamma Bo Kata is still practiced today.

[lkfmdc]

I believe Sum Dum Ho's student was Doo Me Nao, who taught Hu Flung Dung. The system migrated to Viet Nam and was later taught by Suc Muc Dik.
This style then was brought to Okinawa. One of their weapon sets, Yo Mamma Bo Kata is still practiced today.

I thought the kata in rememberance of the Chinese master was still called

Yo Mamma So Dum Shi