Hung Gar

[LaterthanNever]

"If we look at from a style point of view, we may be restricted by the style founder's knowledge."

That is why it's a style in the first place. You sound like a JKD guy. There is a place for that..but as TT says..that's not the question..

[mig]

I have spent some time in looking around some hungkyun sets in youtube and sometimes one wonders where those forms come from. I don't even know if they are related to a traditional style taught by Chinese from overseas but I saw these forms in the 70's. Any feedback?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBK7Xmkh9Y8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eCc4...6CED0FA9FF2CED

Thanks,

[TenTigers]

the second set on the second vid was Fook Fu Kuen, but done as if it was learned from a friend of a friend who knew a guy....
The first vid was nonsense. Just made up stuff.

[lkfmdc]

obviously took a little kung fu from here and from there and made stuff up

craptacular

[David Jamieson]

I guess they're pretty lenient with who they deem "sifu" in honduras.

meh, no sweat off my ass. (or their's by the looks of it)

[lkfmdc]

I guess they're pretty lenient with who they deem "sifu" in honduras.

"sifu" is Honduran slang for "meh" apparently

[TenTigers]

Most of these guys, just like the guys teaching in less metropolitan areas, get away with teaching that made-up stuff because the people out there have no access to real Kung-Fu, so they have nothing to compare it to. So they believe all the hype.
Funny that it never occurs to them to open up a book, or google it.
It's really amazing that it went on even in NY, though. In the 70's and 80's there were a lot of these guys-still are in fact.
I guess, to most non-Asians, Chinatown is a dark and mysterious place, and rather than venture into the unknown, they will sign up at the local Shaolin Mystical Dragon Academy, or some crap...
Like I always say,"Open up a book, fer Chrissakes!"

[mooyingmantis]

craptacular

He shoots, he SCORES!!!! Good one Dave!

[unyma]

Most of these guys, just like the guys teaching in less metropolitan areas, get away with teaching that made-up stuff because the people out there have no access to real Kung-Fu, so they have nothing to compare it to. So they believe all the hype.
Funny that it never occurs to them to open up a book, or google it.
It's really amazing that it went on even in NY, though. In the 70's and 80's there were a lot of these guys-still are in fact.
I guess, to most non-Asians, Chinatown is a dark and mysterious place, and rather than venture into the unknown, they will sign up at the local Shaolin Mystical Dragon Academy, or some crap...
Like I always say,"Open up a book, fer Chrissakes!"

How do I join that place, it sounds great!

[5thBrother]

Hi Guys,

Not sure how to workd this... but after any sites/youtube clips showing the "oldest" versions of Hung Gar/Kuen.

By "oldist" I mean old .. like ... for example there is Wong Fei Hong Lineage HG ... that obvious has a distinct "founding date" ... and obviously there are HG 'systems' for lack of better words 'founded/developed'.. again for lack of better words... before and after WFH Lineage... Most obviously the HG that WFH Learnt himself.

I'm guesing the "Village" Styles of Hung Gar are to look at for older versions of HG? ... But not sure where these Village styles fit into the picture ....


I'm kinda interested in seeing the older minimalist versions and more original versions of whati assume were mininal forms, training exercises and set techniques perhaps

hope that made sense

Thanks

[TenTigers]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1trPgnXXy3s

[ShaolinDan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1trPgnXXy3s

Interesting. It's hard to see his hands with the quality of video, but there appear to be a lot of moves from Eagle Claw. Several of his movements come right out of eagle claw forms I've learned. Weird.
Probably they're just tiger claw techniques that overlap with eagle. Haven't seen much tiger myself, so I don't really know...

[5thBrother]

Thanks TenTigers.

Was also interesting to read this was Shakespear Chan's hung Gar Teacher

[TenTigers]

Shakespear Chan also learned from Lao Ke Tong, who learned from Tang Fong, who learned from Wong Fei-Hung. That is where his Hung-Gar comes from. SC's Hung-Gar is considered Tang Fong style.

[Howard]

Old Hung Kuen, maybe the ones below are examples -

1. Tsam Kong Hung Kuen (also known as 5 pattern Hung Kuen, Hay Sei Fu, etc)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5bD9f49awQ

2. Tam Family Hung Kuen
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Szuqq...el_video_title