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  1. #61
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    Teet Sao probably means "iron hand"

    No Lick Kuen I wouldn't have the foggiest clue. Lick could be lik or lek, which refers to power. The no could be "noi" which means internal.

    Either way, these are not standard forms within the Wong Fei Hung lineage of Hung Gar. Your standard forms in the Wong Fei Hung lineage are Gung Gee Fuk Fu Kuen (Taming the Tiger), Fu Hok Cern Ying Kuen (Tiger and Crane), either Ng Ying (five animals) or Sup Ying Kuen (ten shapes) depending on your lineage, and then Tit Sin Kuen (iron wire).

    Peace

  2. #62

    Red face

    Behave like good martial artist.
    As a matter of fact CMD Illusionfist is correct: Teet (tit) Sao is Iron Hand. No Lick Kuen or Noi Lek Kuen is Internal Strength Fist.
    Some schools teach these as minor forms, but are add ons and not pure Hung Forms.
    mono68

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    Question Question for mono68...

    mono68,

    Peronsally, I've never heard of those forms before (throughout varying lineages of Hung Kuen that I've studied). Do you know what lineage these forms are from?

    Peace

  5. #65

    Talking

    Illusionfist:

    Hung Jap or mixed Hung Styles tend to incorporate. I met once a Teacher from Toisan who incorporated into his system. As per lineage I vaguely remeber this teacher mentioning he was not from the WHF, but from the Hung Moon.
    mono68

  6. #66

    Other schools

    Just to be fair, there are a few schools in addtion to the ones listed by ctoepker in the bay area that teaches the WFH lineage Hung Gar without the extra forms you mentioned. I think they all teach some "extras" besides those mentioned by illusionfist which is what we call the "pillar" forms.

    YC Wong in SF. He used to teach out of Oakland Chinatown but I don't see it on the website
    http://www.tigercrane.com/home.html

    Chiu, Chi Ling in Alameda. I don't see an official class but I know he teaches.
    http://home.earthlink.net/~chiuchiling/

    My Sifu, Wing Lam in Sunnyvale
    http://www.wle.com/school/

    BTW, good time to mention the new book that just came out. Early feedback is this is a very comprehensive book on Hung Gar concepts. It's not a forms book.
    http://www.wle.com//products/b1096.html
    Last edited by hasayfu; 10-10-2003 at 02:07 PM.

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    hey Hasayfu.
    Just wanted to sey my instructor (graham mckenzie form scotland) is learning the hung gar style from wing lam.
    I just started to learn the "arrow hand form".I'm already a high grde in lau gar buti enjoy the Hung gar stuff too.

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    hung gar techniques

    thinking about joining a hung gar school:

    are there any/many throws/joint locks in the system or is it mainly hand strikes?

    what are the main principles of the system
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  9. #69
    Yes there are locks and throws as well as hand, elbow, knee and foot strikes. It is a comprhensive art. One of it's main principles is to destroy the opponents bridge while crossing it and delivering a strike to the body, head.
    I do Southern Sil-Lum Black Tiger (Hak Fu Pai) which is a close cousin to Hung Fist.

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    Lightbulb

    Hung Kuen stylistically has 18 joint locking methods that are used to orgainze the techniques into a concise model. There are a few throws, but its nothing as sophisticated as some of the throws you might find in a throwing art per se.

    Typically, Hung Kuen is a great middle to short range art so therefore the bridging methods allow for a ton of joint locking opportunities, if you so desire. If you are specifically looking for a joint locking type style however, I dont know if Hung Kuen would be the art for you because striking is emphasized over locking (mainly because it is very hard to joint lock). Hung Kuen has a rather large repetoire of techniques, so where one decides to specialize can be drastically different from individual to individual.

    Peace

  11. #71
    Hello HSF,

    I just reviewed your Sifu's book on HG. Please give my compliments to your Sifu on an excellent piece of work. It is sure to become a classic. It is packed with information on history, sets, application, injury treatment and even lion dance. Your Sifu has honored the system, your Sigungs and you must feel honored to have such a knowledgable, skilled and giving Sifu.

    GHD
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  12. #72

    Hung Gar weapons

    Is there nunchaku in Hung Gar?
    I saw school teaching them....
    what about wooden man, is there a form like WC?

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    All depends on what you mean by Hung Gar. The Wong Fei Hung lineage Hung Gar that you see more commonly in the West certainly doesn't, but I do know of some "village" systems that have hardcore dummy sets. It's also possible that some of the other Hung systems teach short sweeper.
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    I've never seen a Hung Kuen lineage that has the nunchuks, but there are several lineages of Hung Kuen that make use of dummies. Many of them are not just excluded to the the WC type dummy and they make use of rarer types, like the gau sing jong (9 star dummy), etc.

    Peace

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    Any news on the old sifu?

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