those vids are probably wushu-ized
but you should get my point.
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those vids are probably wushu-ized
but you should get my point.
GM of Hadaka Korosu
http://www.amazon.com/Chin-Tradition...4299704&sr=8-5
Not modern at all, well....not THAT modern anyways.
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Praise be my Lord my Rock,
He trains my hands for war, my fingers for battle !
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[QUOTE=MightyB;845303]Eventhough what you say is also true, it is my understanding that ground fighting in kung fu incorporates chin-na and striking techniques,again within the principles of the individual arts.Originally Posted by HardWork8
At least this is true for (the mainland chinese) Wing Chun that I practice. Having said that, I have not reached the ground fighting level in the cyllabus, but that is how it is in this type of Wing Chun and it has nothing to do with western wrestling. There is always more than one way to skin a cat.
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SanJuro, you're a bit of a scholar.
First published in 1936, this work represents primary source material of ancient combat techniques designed in a time of occupation and war, when the threat of lethal hand-to-hand combat was an ever-present reality for soldiers, those involved in law enforcement, and very often for the ordinary citizen.
Who was occupying and at war with China in 1936. What style of hand to hand would they use? How would that modernize the traditional art?
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Oh no, does this mean that the Gracies and Ken Shamrock did not invent grappling, oh no..aaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Many people forget or don't know that the art of wrestling was around in China, long before kung fu, and still continues to be around.
This means that the being attacked/challenged by a wrestler was a real possibility for any kung fu master throughout the development and evolution of the various kung fu styles, and of course as we know now, kung fu styles provide provisions and contingencies for such scenarios. THAT IS, if they are taught/practiced the way they were meant to.
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see the above MightyB post and ponder the effects that an occupying army of Ju-Jitsu trained soldiers would have on a "traditional" art.
GM of Hadaka Korosu
No doubt that judo influenced CMA at that time, just like no doubt that CMA influenced JMA before that.
No one lives in a bubble, as much as some MA would like to think so.
Psalms 144:1
Praise be my Lord my Rock,
He trains my hands for war, my fingers for battle !
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Why, they wouldn't last 10 seconds against kung fu fighters.LOL.
Have a look at this link. This is Tiger style kung fu with groundfighting. www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPP9_TNBhF4
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The MMAers already tore that video to shreds, so it's not worth repeating here.
Personally I kind'a liked it.
GM of Hadaka Korosu
Since you haven't reached that part of the cyllabus yet, what happens when you get taken down in a fight ??
Psalms 144:1
Praise be my Lord my Rock,
He trains my hands for war, my fingers for battle !
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In all seriousness- the traditional perspective is "what in the heck did you do so wrong that allowed that guy to take you down in a fight?" "You suck".
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Well you can't learn everything at one go. To answer your question, I will try not to get taken down, just as I would if there were multiple attackers.
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And how did they do that, considering that most of them do not really understand what kung fu is all about.
At least you've got good taste.
GM of Hadaka Korosu
Which brings us full circle to why I prefer to cross train.
But again, that is just me.
Psalms 144:1
Praise be my Lord my Rock,
He trains my hands for war, my fingers for battle !
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And by this definition, MMA is not complete.
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