Big Trouble in China

[Samurai Jack]

As a side note, China has blocked youtube to it's citizens, so where are all of those comments you see from supposed Chinese citizens who claim to be living in the country coming from?

[firepalm]

perhaps someday the U.S. will consider Canadians one of the U.S.'s "Ethnic minority" groups

Well with the pending North American Union, RFID Chip / V Chip and the Amero I have the feeling we'll all be ****genized...... That is those of us that make it out of the FEMA camps.....

[SPJ]

about the vid.

some of the comments are good and most of them are not.

personally,

each country will have many ethnics or majority and many minorites.

as the country grows bigger, it will include more and more people with different cultures and religious backgrounds.

PRC started out with communist troops in northern China.

they grew bigger at the end of wwii.

however, commie did not have good footing in the north west and south west which are populated with minorites that cover huge area of gobi deserts, green plains and high grounds of himalayas.

it was very difficult to get into.

there were a lot of negociations, the troops in new territories of xin jiang surrendered. the leaders switched sides from supporting ROC to PRC.

tibet was unique, too. there were also miao and qiang or jiang minorities etc.

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cultural revolution was bad all over China, not just in tibet.

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the question for everyone would be how to get along with one another in peace.

Han may bring a lot of capitals and technologies.

tibet provides huge natural resources and strategical high grounds or roof of the world, that overlooking india subcontinent, middle east and central moslem asia.

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little countries will always be swayed by bigger countries, such as india, russia and china etc.

like it or not, tibet was always closed to china thruout history.

Tang's princess wen cheng married to the tibetan king, there were Tang's 3000 or 5000 young girl servants went along, too.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Princess_Wencheng

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at the time, europe was still in dark age. I think.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_age

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do not blame the west or west media.

take care of things responsibly and peacefully.

both tibetan and han people have been living and trading with one another long before any western countries/powers even exist.

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[SPJ]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXmdKWVirUA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoMJ2...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3t0u...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTs6H...eature=related

4 noble truths.

warning:

the vid's last more than a hour.

[SPJ]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEJ11...eature=related

discovery channel.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2I2bv...eature=related

national geographic.

[BlueTravesty]

Funny thing, I keep seeing ethinic Han Chinese on various sites screaming that "Tibet is part of China!"

But no Tibetans making that claim. Quite the contrary.

With the AMAZING similarities between Han Chinese and Tibetan culture, why, it's a shocker that the Tibetans just don't see that they've been part of China all this time. It's like a slice of Bologna and a Bright Orange Hunting Vest. You look at them side by side, and you just can't tell the difference!

What I'm wondering is why they're so doggedly determined to hold on to Tibet. After all, quite a bit of Vietnam was once "considered" part of China. I'm no student of history, so I'll just speculate on how that happened.

China: Good morning, Vietnam. You're part of our country because of a few cultural similarities.

Vietnam: Yeah, whatever. We've got constant political turmoil because of the French colonists and poverty is rampant, you SURE you want some of this?

China: Good point. Well, carry on then. Good luck with the French.

[SPJ]

vietnam was part of yuan (mongolian) china.

Qing did go to war with the french.

French navy blockaded taiwan straights.

Qing won the war on the land.

however, the emperor signed treaty with the french.

and "ceded" vietnam to the french, it became french indochina.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-French_War


China or central plains are north of yellow river, that was where everything started since yellow emperor.

southern china, and southwest china were considered barbarian tribes and states.

there are many satellites states from korea all the way down around to afganstan.

these states were considered brotherly or subjugated states.

whenever, there were invasions of these satellites, china will go to war,

with the idea of the closeness of the teeth and the lips. the lips are gone, the teeth would be next.

that was why when Japan came, Qing went to war and lost. Korea became Japanese colony.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Sino-Japanese_War

when the french came, Qing went to war, too, only to "give" vietnam away.

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[Samurai Jack]

As of today, 140 protesters have been killed by soldiers in the ongoing struggle, and media blackouts continue. The Chinese government has officially begun a malware campaign against public message boards and reporting agencies nationally that support Tibetan protestors (watch out KFM).

http://www.radionetherlands.nl/news/...ays-140-killed

http://www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/22...-aim-pro-tibet

Meanwhile, Australia and France leveled "harsh criticism" against the Chinese handling of the political unrest, but stopped short of encouraging a boycott of the Olympic games.

http://www.abc.net.au/ra/news/storie...htm?tab=latest

Also, Venezuela's president Hugo Chavez claims the U.S. is "inciting disent" among tibetans in order to weaken China (strangely at odds with the fact that the U.S. media is hardly reporting on the Tibet situation, and U.S. politicians have uniformly declined to comment).

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/...bet-Chavez.php

And in the most ominous twist yet, ethnic Tibetans are being herded into ghettos today in Sichuan today in an effort to exert even tighter controls over possible protests being staged in tandem with the torch lighting ceremony in Greece.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle3617551.ece

[SPJ]

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...eed=rss.sports


from what I heard;

there will be protest gathering every where the torch goes;

In San Franciso, Chinese embassy had been thrown 2 incindiary objects.

there will be a huge protest gathering when the torch reaches SF.

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most people and governments hope, the protesting crowds will be peaceful everywhere.

their purpose is to embarass chinese government,

but be careful enough not to hurt the spirits and process of olympics.

in short, not to hold "hostage" of the olympic games itself.


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[SPJ]

whenever, there is ethnic tension, or any major event natural or man made.

yes, Chinese government will seal off news reporting first.

and then tightening securities.

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[SPJ]

the "unrest" in tibet since march 14th is "officially" over.

they are letting TV reporters from Taiwan, Hong Kong and other countries to enter tibet for the first time.

Lhasa is opened to the public, again.

Hundreds of people died and others arrested.

the securities are still tight in tibet, yun nan and si chuan.

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the paper called it the march 14 th incident or 3.14 "incident".

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peaceful protests around olympic torch will continue.

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[Samurai Jack]

Not sure where you heard it's "officially over." This news just yesterday in the New York Times:

On Tuesday, protesters and the police clashed in Garze, a prefecture of Sichuan, state media and a Tibetan rights group said. Some 200 monks and nuns began a march earlier in the day that turned violent when the police sought to suppress the crowd, the India-based Tibetan Center for Human Rights and Democracy said.

China’s Xinhua news agency said the police opened fire in self-defense after the demonstrators attacked them with knives and stones. The rights group said one 18-year-old monk was killed and another was critically injured, while Xinhua said protesters killed one policeman.

And the PRC has not "let in" the foriegn media, they are escorting foreign journalists on carefully crafted tours, hoping that they'll be dumb enough to believe the spin. According to the AP, USA Today, and the WAll Street Journal, we're not buying it.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2...26-tibet_N.htm

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1206...googlenews_wsj

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5h...2NkhgD8VL5OPO0

In further news, China has blocked an effort by Australian Diplomats to visit Tibet, French Foreign Affairs officials recieve criticism for not taking a stronger stance against China; and subsequently open talks concerning an Olymipics boycott, and good ol' George W. Bush ain't about to give up his tickets to the games 'cause "athletes would be disappointed."

I'm sure they'd be crushed, Mr. President.

http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/chi...207206689.html

http://www.reuters.com/article/lates.../idUSL26383126

http://www.hindustantimes.com/StoryP...c+not+politics'

[Drake]

Hypocrisy. We still use Chinese products, and I don't see any mass boycotss of that. We'll protest, but not to the state that it becomes uncomfortable.

[firepalm]

And the PRC has not "let in" the foriegn media, they are escorting foreign journalists on carefully crafted tours, hoping that they'll be dumb enough to believe the spin. According to the AP, USA Today, and the WAll Street Journal, we're not buying it.

'Carefully crafted tours', well at least they (China) aren't quietly selling out their own country like Bush & Harper have done along with Mexico and the North American media hardly speaks of it. Well Tibet is nice distraction in the very least (maybe even brought to you by the CIA) and in the meanwhile the CNN media doesn't even have to spin anything about the SPP & the pending North American Union (aka NAU).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T74VA3xU0EA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuBo4E77ZXo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4axRYJymHI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ccxQRaLIOM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0q5eTXBOUP4

Boycott China how about looking into what your own Gov't (mine included) are doing to all of us under our own noses while CNN distracts you with Tibet & Richard Gere (not to mention trival wastes of time like Britney Spears, Paris Hilton, etc...). Tibet & boycotting China should be the least of your worries! The slavery of the past that the Tibetan Lamas imposed on their own people will in the very least provide an outline for labour practices here in the new NAU.
WAKE UP THE F C U K UP!

[Drake]

'Carefully crafted tours', well at least they (China) aren't quietly selling out their own country like Bush & Harper have done along with Mexico and the North American media hardly speaks of it. Well Tibet is nice distraction in the very least (maybe even brought to you by the CIA) and in the meanwhile the CNN media doesn't even have to spin anything about the SPP & the pending North American Union (aka NAU).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T74VA3xU0EA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuBo4E77ZXo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4axRYJymHI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ccxQRaLIOM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0q5eTXBOUP4

Boycott China how about looking into what your own Gov't (mine included) are doing to all of us under our own noses while CNN distracts you with Tibet & Richard Gere (not to mention trival wastes of time like Britney Spears, Paris Hilton, etc...). Tibet & boycotting China should be the least of your worries! The slavery of the past that the Tibetan Lamas imposed on their own people will in the very least provide an outline for labour practices here in the new NAU.
WAKE UP THE F C U K UP!

Wait...what's going on with Richard Gere?? I thought he did a great job in Hunting Party.