Iron Palm for MMA

[Three Harmonies]

Just read Mr. Dugas' article on "Iron Palm for MMA" in the latest KFQ rag, and while it is a really good article on Iron Palm, I have a couple questions:
-Not sure what it has to do with MMA? You mention MMA in the opening paragraph, then the closing paragraph. Nothing in between. So I am not sure why the title reflects a focus on MMA?

- Why not shop this to one of the MMA rags?

- I know you do not fight MMA, but do you have any students who have tried this training?

- Devils advocate question: if iron palm training really made people strike harder, why is it we do not hear about any fighters training this method?

Thanks
Jake

[sanjuro_ronin]

Just read Mr. Dugas' article on "Iron Palm for MMA" in the latest KFQ rag, and while it is a really good article on Iron Palm, I have a couple questions:
-Not sure what it has to do with MMA? You mention MMA in the opening paragraph, then the closing paragraph. Nothing in between. So I am not sure why the title reflects a focus on MMA?

- Why not shop this to one of the MMA rags?

- I know you do not fight MMA, but do you have any students who have tried this training?

- Devils advocate question: if iron palm training really made people strike harder, why is it we do not hear about any fighters training this method?

Thanks
Jake

One of the reasons I started IP was how much sense it made for HNB with Bare hands sans gloves.

[MasterKiller]

One of the reasons I started IP was how much sense it made for HNB with Bare hands sans gloves.

When was the last time someone broke a hand in an MMA fight from punching when they were wearing 4-oz gloves?

[sanjuro_ronin]

When was the last time someone broke a hand in an MMA fight from punching when they were wearing 4-oz gloves?

Since I posted about bare knuckle, what's your point

Yeah, even 4oz gloves already offer enough protection.

Then again, MMA punch like bunch of pansies !

[sanjuro_ronin]

Where can we read Dale's article by the way?

[MasterKiller]

Since I posted about bare knuckle, what's your point

Yeah, even 4oz gloves already offer enough protection.

Then again, MMA punch like bunch of pansies !

When was the last time you fought bareknuckle NHB?

[sanjuro_ronin]

When was the last time you fought bareknuckle NHB?

January 1999

Last MMA match had MMA gloves, that was a couple of years ago, why?

[MasterKiller]

January 1999

Last MMA match had MMA gloves, that was a couple of years ago, why?

When did you start Iron Palm? You said "One of the reasons I started IP was how much sense it made for HNB with Bare hands sans gloves" so I'm just trying to get some perspective. Were you doing Iron Palm before 1999?

[sanjuro_ronin]

When did you start Iron Palm? You said "One of the reasons I started IP was how much sense it made for HNB with Bare hands sans gloves" so I'm just trying to get some perspective. Were you doing Iron Palm before 1999?

Nope, only been doing it for the last 2 years, I started IP based on what I learned while doing NHB.
Never had a chance to apply it in competition, perhaps in the future, but I doubt it.
I was doing "typical" Karate conditoning and only had some minor bruises but I noticed that the open hand was ideal for GnP from the top position.

[GeneChing]

The issue is just arriving on the newsstands now. We hope to have the table of contents posted in our magazine section by the end of the day (but if you haven't noticed, we've been having server problems all week time to get a new server...)

I'm sure Dale will chime in on this as soon as he sees it.

As for MMA people training Iron Palm, I know Grandmaster Alex Tao coached at Cung Le's school for a very short period some years ago. It was short lived however - I think the language barrier made them part ways.

[sanjuro_ronin]

I don't think that many MMA fighters would opt for a 2 year long program for IP, sport combat tends to look for the quickest routes to combat effectiveness and IP, while effective, is a long road.
I think that someone with IP going into MMA has an advantage in the striking game, I don't see someone already in MMA training devoting the time needed for IP.
If it was already part of a curriculum from the beginning, possibly.

[Three Harmonies]

I have never heard of any coach in any combat sport attributing anything to Iron Palm training.

Thanks
Jake

[Lucas]

Thats an awsome article on GM Tao.

[Dale Dugas]

I have taught a few students privately that wanted to learn the method to help them in NHB events where gloves were not involved.

I wanted to introduce a shortened version of IP that could be trained by anyone who is strapped for time but still gleam effects in the long run.

Way too many people wrap their hands and train with a hand that could break if used in an unwrapped phase.

I know its a long shot for most. But I wanted to get it out there that there is something that can help strengthen the hands as well as the GnP.

Jake, always good to hear pro and con about subjects.

[Vajramusti]

Gene says: (but if you haven't noticed, we've been having server problems all week time to get a new server...)
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