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    Gung Fu & Breakdancing

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELqdv...eature=related

    almost looks CLF just his musculature

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUd0J...eature=related

    west coast funk dance stytles can't just be black and latino...there is something dragon style kung fu about them...chameleon like!.

    I'm sure there is a cool history of the chinese community teaching gung fu to slaves and native reserves

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    Breaking is lindy hop revivalism with a charleston feel. although it is likely that in the course of things, a little kungfu move or two here and there got thrown in.

    check out stuff on lindy hopping. you'll be surprised. You'll be even more surprised when you chack the date on that!. lol

    i the meantime, my grandpa can dance better than your grandpa lol: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTg5V2oA_hY
    Last edited by David Jamieson; 04-13-2008 at 08:05 AM.
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    small wonder why. Breakdancing, which got its start in the early 70's in NYC and Bronx, NY actually did incorperate Chinese Martial Arts moves into its repetoire.
    Many of the inner city youths hung out at the triple feature movie houses on
    42nd street, which showed all the Shaw bros and Golden Harvest Kung Fu movies.
    Martial Arts was taught at youth centers in effort to get the kids off the streets.
    Capoeira was also taught at youth centers. Look at the uprock footwork. It's basically the Jinga. Downrock contains all the golden scissor sweeps etc.
    Not a coincidence. Neither is the similarity between uprock and "Jailhouse Rock." but that's another story.

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    I would agree that there is some connection. However as a former breaker
    in my younger days(early 80's NY) i would have to implore you guys to look
    a lil furhter back than black belt theatre. Chinese are not the only culture
    with fighting arts. Africans have had fighting arts for millenia as well.
    Capoeria and breaking, while not quite the same stem from an African root
    without a doubt. Capoeria--fighting disguised as dance to fool slave owners
    in Brazil. Don't think there was any black belt theatre back then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jow yeroc View Post
    I would agree that there is some connection. However as a former breaker
    in my younger days(early 80's NY) i would have to implore you guys to look
    a lil furhter back than black belt theatre. Chinese are not the only culture
    with fighting arts. Africans have had fighting arts for millenia as well.
    Capoeria and breaking, while not quite the same stem from an African root
    without a doubt. Capoeria--fighting disguised as dance to fool slave owners
    in Brazil. Don't think there was any black belt theatre back then.
    I think a lot of what you are talking about is lost to antiquity in regards to african martial arts with a hodge podge of revivalists sprouting up and co-opting mostly chinese martial arts or karate , slightly modifying it and calling it an african martial art. I mean youtube has a few of these guys who do this.

    capoiera having been adjusted into a "dance" is no longer what one could consider anything more than a recreational dance pastime. I wouldn't put it in the category of useful or effective martial art, but I would change my mind if someone could demonstrate capoiera in a venue like a vale tudo match or something.

    But seriously, breaking is born out of dance and has tiny insignificant almost not important to the whole "kungfu" in it. It is not dependent on cma moves or any of that. There are freaky dance moves that predate any breaking anyway. Jitterbug, jive, charlston, lindy hop as mentioned. these are all high energy dances requiring skill agilitya nd dexterity that you don't need for regular dance but that you would need for something like breaking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by David Jamieson View Post
    I think a lot of what you are talking about is lost to antiquity in regards to african martial arts with a hodge podge of revivalists sprouting up and co-opting mostly chinese martial arts or karate , slightly modifying it and calling it an african martial art. I mean youtube has a few of these guys who do this.

    capoiera having been adjusted into a "dance" is no longer what one could consider anything more than a recreational dance pastime. I wouldn't put it in the category of useful or effective martial art, but I would change my mind if someone could demonstrate capoiera in a venue like a vale tudo match or something.

    But seriously, breaking is born out of dance and has tiny insignificant almost not important to the whole "kungfu" in it. It is not dependent on cma moves or any of that. There are freaky dance moves that predate any breaking anyway. Jitterbug, jive, charlston, lindy hop as mentioned. these are all high energy dances requiring skill agilitya nd dexterity that you don't need for regular dance but that you would need for something like breaking.
    The thing about true bboying is the fight aspect...breakdance is fruity if you don't know how to scrap...there is a definite shadowboxing element to it

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=gu3X7rf9i5A

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    Quote Originally Posted by David Jamieson View Post
    capoiera having been adjusted into a "dance" is no longer what one could consider anything more than a recreational dance pastime. I wouldn't put it in the category of useful or effective martial art, but I would change my mind if someone could demonstrate capoiera in a venue like a vale tudo match or something.
    Ask and ye shall receive...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OK_M-OxhjNA

    There are a few types of Capoeira though and the angola stuff looks a heckuvalot more martial.

    The handstand kick is also something in traditional Muay Thai that Saenchai is known to pull off in fights against lumpinee fighters; so flashy can work.

    The lutra livre guys that always challenged the bjj guys in the early days of vale tudo came from a capoeira background.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jow yeroc View Post
    I would agree that there is some connection. However as a former breaker
    in my younger days(early 80's NY) i would have to implore you guys to look
    a lil furhter back than black belt theatre. Chinese are not the only culture
    with fighting arts. Africans have had fighting arts for millenia as well.
    Capoeria and breaking, while not quite the same stem from an African root
    without a doubt. Capoeria--fighting disguised as dance to fool slave owners
    in Brazil. Don't think there was any black belt theatre back then.
    The rocksteady guys all said it came from the theatres they didn't know no brazilian kickstepping...it was all about Bruce Lee. Crazy Legs was high and fell off his chair and spun into a backspin inventing it... Crazy legs is all about the Monkey Gung Fu.

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=Leg3WJnttfc&feature=related

    CL drops at 4:30 wearing white shoes turqouise pants and the blue hoodie...he takes off the shoes...straight Hop Ga footwork
    Last edited by diego; 04-14-2008 at 07:00 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TenTigers View Post
    small wonder why. Breakdancing, which got its start in the early 70's in NYC and Bronx, NY actually did incorperate Chinese Martial Arts moves into its repetoire.
    Many of the inner city youths hung out at the triple feature movie houses on
    42nd street, which showed all the Shaw bros and Golden Harvest Kung Fu movies.
    Martial Arts was taught at youth centers in effort to get the kids off the streets.
    Capoeira was also taught at youth centers. Look at the uprock footwork. It's basically the Jinga. Downrock contains all the golden scissor sweeps etc.
    Not a coincidence. Neither is the similarity between uprock and "Jailhouse Rock." but that's another story.
    Got any links to the uprock Jailhouse link Ten Tigers?.

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=Rv7TPvREf5g

    Ken Swift is my favorite for uprock!.

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    Quote Originally Posted by diego View Post
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELqdv...eature=related

    almost looks CLF just his musculature

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUd0J...eature=related

    west coast funk dance stytles can't just be black and latino...there is something dragon style kung fu about them...chameleon like!.

    I'm sure there is a cool history of the chinese community teaching gung fu to slaves and native reserves
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=txxwIN3tS88&feature=related

    So Breakdance> Shaolin Do

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=iOUhqSRO56U

    It's a trip how these black and latino kids from the bronx plus a couple whiteboys and asians created a new form of motion and spread that **** worldwide...must be one million breakers worldwide...some styles of martial arts don't have that membership. Kung Fu's influence on Hip Hop is the fact that bboys all walk like Bruce Lee ENTER THE DRAGON with the hunched coil

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    Karate rejected for Paris 2024 Olympics

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    ‘It’s not just doing the worm’: breakdancing could become Olympic sport in 2024
    • IOC to make decision for Paris 2024 by December 2020
    • Karate, squash, billiard sports and chess rejected
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    Thu 21 Feb 2019 07.36 EST Last modified on Thu 21 Feb 2019 11.31 EST


    The head of the Paris 2024 organising committee said breakdancing would make the Olympics ‘more urban’ and ‘more artistic’. Photograph: Anne-Christine Poujoulat/AFP/Getty Images

    Breakdancing pioneer Richard “Crazy Legs” Colon, who as leader of the US hip-hop group Rock Steady Crew is widely credited with turning the craze into a global phenomenon, has hailed its prospective inclusion in the Olympic Games.

    Breakdancing has been confirmed as one of four sports, along with surfing, climbing and skateboarding, which will be put forward to the International Olympic Committee for inclusion in the Paris 2024 Games.

    It follows the successful introduction of breakdancing at the Youth Olympic Games in Buenos Aires last year, for which Colon, a 53-year-old from The Bronx in New York, was invited to be a part of the judging panel.

    Colon said: “This is about two worlds coming together. They each have their own history and I think that we can carefully do this in a manner that is respectful to the essence of both. The dance represents many people who come from struggle and have nothing, and now that has translated into an opportunity to see the world, to compete and, most importantly, to build bridges between cultures and break down stereotypes.”

    Colon was a founding member of the Rock Steady Crew in 1977 and helped it develop from what was initially a New York sub-culture into a style which was recognised and copied around the world.

    The group’s major UK hit, ‘(Hey You) The Rocksteady Crew’ reached number six in the charts in October 1983.

    “I was brought in as one of the judges in Argentina and as you are watching the kids getting their medals, you kind of start to feel a little bit emotional,” added Colon.

    Paco Boxy, director of the British Breaking League which organises competitions across the UK,added: “I think it’s fantastic news, not only for the young generation but also for the credibility of breakdancing to be classed as a sport.

    “A lot of people will look at breakdancing as just spinning on your head or doing the worm, but the people that I know train like athletes. They go to the gym swimming, train every day. It will always be a dance first and foremost, but it has turned into a sport.

    The selection of the four sports by the Paris organising committee brings bad news for squash and karate, the latter of which will make its Olympic debut in Tokyo next year.

    A statement from World Karate Federation president Antonio Espinos read: “Our sport has grown exponentially over the last years and we still haven’t had the chance to prove our value as an Olympic sport since we will be making our debut as an Olympic discipline in Tokyo 2020.

    “Over the last months we have worked relentlessly, together with the French Federation, to achieve our goal of being included in Paris 2024. We believed that we had met all the requirements and that we had the perfect conditions to be added to the sports programme. However, we have learned today that our dream will not be coming true.”

    In a joint statement, the World Squash Federation and PSA World Tour said: “The proposed list of four sports only, of which three sports are already confirmed by the IOC on the Tokyo 2020 Olympic programme, leads to a belief that Paris 2024 and the IOC favoured sports already in the Olympic programme, leaving practically no opportunity for other sports.

    “The unity that our sport enjoys globally is exceptional and is getting stronger by the day. WSF and PSA are supported by the entire squash community and, with our athletes at the forefront, have run a strong campaign that respected the timeline and the criteria set by Paris 2024 and the IOC.”
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    Breakdancing provisionally approved

    Breakdancing provisionally approved as an Olympic sport in 2024 ... no, seriously
    Chris Cwik Yahoo Sports Jun 25, 2019, 12:16 PM


    Breakdancing is coming to the Olympics. (AP)

    Dust off your old breakdancing mats now because your country might need you. Breakdancing has been provisionally approved for the 2024 Olympics, according to Ben Fischer of the Sports Business Journal.

    There were rumblings this was going to happen. In March, the International Olympics Committee recommended breakdancing — along with a couple other sports — for consideration at the 2024 games.

    Fischer cleared up why other sports — such as lacrosse or cricket — weren’t in the conversation for the Olympics. The committee believes breakdancing will bring in a younger audience.

    Ben Fischer

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    News: IOC provisionally approves breakdancing as a new medal event at 2024 Paris Olympics, a first in the Games. Three other sports also approved: skateboarding, sport climbing and surfing. Those are also new, but will debut next year in Tokyo.

    Ben Fischer

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    Some context on what's driving Olympics' thinking on new sports: New additions need to be 1.) youth-oriented 2.) small footprint (they don't want the total no. of athletes to grow much, so team sports are v. hard) and 3.) have broad appeal, interest across many countries

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    Before you write off breakdancing as a sport, consider some of the other events in the Olympics. Many require skill, athleticism and hours of practice to reach perfection.

    If breakdancing can do that and provide viewers with entertaining and moving performances, is it really any different than some of the events millions of people tune in to the Olympics to watch now?

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    I would watch Olympic Breakdancing competition.

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    I would watch Olympic Breakdancing competition.
    So would I.
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    I saw a recent Wudang Temple showcasing elements of what may be called Parkour i.e jumping up and over walls, negotiaitiong narrow passage on top of steep cliffs.
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    hiphop and gungfu will forever go hand n hand. its only right!

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