Is Ng Family Style real?

[mkriii]

Shane...... do you know the monkey baqua form? Is it very long? This is the Baqua form that Frank Sexton started teaching me about a year ago but I never got the chance to go back and learn the rest of it. Now that Frank isn't associated with John Ng (or vice versa) it's a little hard to finish learning. And catching Great Grandmaster Dr. John Ng when he isn't working at the pharmacy is hard to do. Do you know anyone here in Lexington that knows it and would be willing to teach it? What little I do know of it I really like.

[Judge Pen]

Mark, working hard is always a compliment. That's the essence of kung fu. Quit being so sensitive--the only person throwing rocks here is you.

[Judge Pen]

She's going to New Orleans. We're not married yet; the wedding is next year.

Shane

Congratulations.

[brucereiter]

Hi, Bruce,

If I understand you right, the answer is yes, but not at first. We do it that way when we start circle walking with the energy palms, but we spend a lot of time before that doing them in singles with the basic walking posture.

I also noticed that I keep mentioning the energy palms. I know a lot of people use different terminology for stuff so I wanted to make clear that by energy palms I mean the eight integral palms shapes and their associated actions, not the form.

Shane

thanks for the reply shane ...
are these what you are talking about. i just call them the 8 palms ...

[Shaolin Wookie]

Mark, working hard is always a compliment. That's the essence of kung fu. Quit being so sensitive--the only person throwing rocks here is you.

Yes, but if this thread is an indicator of anything, he's throwing his rocks at a brick wall, and they're bouncing back off and giving him a headache.

MARKA SO ANGRY! MARKA SMASH!

[Judge Pen]

Bruce's illustration is right in line with my notes on Jiang Rongqiao's Baguazhang's Palm Methods. Bruce have you referred to Joseph Crandall's translation of JQR's classical text?

[brucereiter]

That's them. We have some very minor differences, but they're substantially the same.

Shane

cool. we have a standing drill where you go through each "palm" over and over. i like it.

[brucereiter]

Bruce's illustration is right in line with my notes on Jiang Rongqiao's Baguazhang's Palm Methods. Bruce have you referred to Joseph Crandall's translation of JQR's classical text?

ahh :-) yes. i like that one. andrea falk has a great book/translation too.

ya know it is funny gmt did a good translation of the "rules" and he split it into 64 points in a very organized way. but some of his translation is silly/funny like "ducks come out as a flock" gmt calls "wild ducks come out as a herd" just little things like that through out his translation. gmt's translation notes have copies the hand drawings that jiangs daughter made for him for his book.

[Judge Pen]

ahh :-) yes. i like that one. andrea falk has a great book/translation too.

ya know it is funny gmt did a good translation of the "rules" and he split it into 64 points in a very organized way. but some of his translation is silly/funny like "ducks come out as a flock" gmt calls "wild ducks come out as a herd" just little things like that through out his translation. gmt's translation notes have copies the hand drawings that jiangs daughter made for him for his book.

I know. I always thought that was interesting. At least we know that GMT was doing his own translation.

[mkriii]

Mark, working hard is always a compliment. That's the essence of kung fu. Quit being so sensitive--the only person throwing rocks here is you.

Well, I'm sorry then. I took it the wrong way. Thank you for the compliment on the Four Seasons team on working so hard. It means a lot when other people see it and recognize it.

[peace&love]

I have found this thread to be quite interesting, but it has seemed to have filtered out lately. My former sifu use to study with Tom Pardue who studied under Dr. Ng. At least that was my understanding. I also heard that Dr. Ng was a fantastic kung fu guy, but does not teach as much due to personal issues that this forum is probably not the place for discussion in regards to that. My former instructor thought very highly of Dr. Ng's kung fu skills and I am very interested in knowing his current status.
Also, when I was looking for a new school recently to train at, I came across three instructors who claimed to be involved with Dr. Ng at one time. One was Rusty Gray.
It seems that the Ng kung fu family has some inner political issues that has hurt their growth and reputation unfortunately. The people I have spoke with and have met who have been involved with Dr. Ng at one time seem like really good folks, but it seems something may have happened that has really left a sore spot in their hearts. Does anyone have any info on this and is there any word that this supposed riff may be healed? Please don't take my nosiness as a negative. I'm generally concerned because I would hate to see Dr. Ng's forms lost due to politics and bickering.

[mkriii]

I have found this thread to be quite interesting, but it has seemed to have filtered out lately. My former sifu use to study with Tom Pardue who studied under Dr. Ng. At least that was my understanding. I also heard that Dr. Ng was a fantastic kung fu guy, but does not teach as much due to personal issues that this forum is probably not the place for discussion in regards to that. My former instructor thought very highly of Dr. Ng's kung fu skills and I am very interested in knowing his current status.
Also, when I was looking for a new school recently to train at, I came across three instructors who claimed to be involved with Dr. Ng at one time. One was Rusty Gray.
It seems that the Ng kung fu family has some inner political issues that has hurt their growth and reputation unfortunately. The people I have spoke with and have met who have been involved with Dr. Ng at one time seem like really good folks, but it seems something may have happened that has really left a sore spot in their hearts. Does anyone have any info on this and is there any word that this supposed riff may be healed? Please don't take my nosiness as a negative. I'm generally concerned because I would hate to see Dr. Ng's forms lost due to politics and bickering.

Dr. Ng is doing great. I saw him this past Friday. I was in Eastern Ky on business and decided to drop in and see him at his work. He was quite busy at work so I didn't get the chance to spend a lot of time with him. I talked to him for about 15 minutes. As for Rusty Gray, he did study under Dr. Ng. For how long I don't know. Rusty Gray is an excellent teacher. I know him personally. I know that there is no bad blood between any of the Ng family members that I know of. I believe everything has been settled. I studied at Dr. Ng's school for three years then studied under John Dufresne ever since 1989. John Dufresne was and still is one of Dr. Ng's original students and is an 8th level black sash under Dr. Ng. And by the way, I am by no means the official spokesperson for Ng Family Kung Fu. I'm just stating what I know.

[peace&love]

It sounds like all is well. Thank you for giving me an update. I have met Rusty quite a few times and think highly of him. He was a judge at a tournament I participated in and did an excellent job. Also, when I was looking for a new place to study I considered Rusty's school. He is an excellent teacher, but concentrates more on Wing Chun now than Ng Family. Therefore, I decided to study elsewhere because I was more interested in Ng Family at the time. Once again, thanks for your update.

[mkriii]

There is another Ng Family member that teaches down towards Nashville who is really good. His name is Bruce Linville. Did you check him out? He studied under Dr. Ng back in the early 80's. He's good friends with Rusty.

[peace&love]

Yes, I did speak with him briefly about a year ago. He seemed reluctant to take on new students since he teaches out of his home. I believe he did a seminar for Rusty last year. He has a reputation for being a great instructor, but I just felt that he did not wish to instruct me even though he invited me to a meeting. No hard feelings there, just not for me. My personality is to welcome all. Yes, I do get burned on that sometimes, but it is my nature.