Do you hit stuff?

[unkokusai]

were is your clip? doing pad work? or even fighting

You haven't seen the vid of him tapping out to an 'ear grind' in under two minutes? Its famous!

[Pork Chop]

Slapping down on his fist does not increase his power, that is a lie that people need to stop telling.

Providing resistance to his punches and not just holding the pad there DOES increase punching power - that's why boxers do it... if that weren't the case boxers would hit birthday balloons and not heavybags.

ok, so this guy did three punches, a slip and kick. Ok nice but it doesn't support your arguement. if you don't to see hip movement from the other video then you must REALLY not want to see it.

In tcma you've got the six harmonies, hips and shoulders are one of them, a lot of the guys in the first vid have completely stationary shoulders throughout their punches; which implies no hip movement.
I'm wondering what you're seeing, actually, because aside from the vid poster not a lot of folks i know agree with you.

If anything this your guy had a wide guard and loose round punches after he broke position. And it was the same drill over and over again in the same place. So far you haven't said anything relevant.

FYI- you're the one who made the comment about the first vid being a "static" drill, so i provided a "static" drill of my own.

Actually it was 2 drills - slipping the jab and slipping the cross, each had a different response counter; i just didn't mix it up enough coz we actually hadn't done padwork with each other in 6 to 8 months. You really shoulda seen it a year prior.

By wide guard I'm assuming you mean the round kicks?
That's a torque thing (hip movement) that a lot of people do and it is intentional.

Otherwise, unlike the first vid he's relaxed throwing his punches - not too tense.
His round punches are intentionally wide because they're easier to throw and easier to land when combined with round kicks (boxing hooks tend to be much tighter).

He likes a lower guard than I feel comfortable with - but he has the head movement to pull it off.
We were watching a lot of this video at the time and I know I would change some stuff up these days:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiDgNwnLjYE
(FYI - That's Pat Militech, trainer of Matt Hughes, Tim Silvia, Jeremy Horn, and Robbier Lawler, as well as being a UFC champ himself)

Laukarbo
Sure enough. It'll be interesting if he comes.
You were there, on the other forum, I tried to have a conversation on his turf and he decided to be a bit of a git about having a discussion or accepting any criticism.
In sport fighting you can offer a critique and it's not going to come off like a personal attack.

[PM]

hello, thnx to all for their comments.

most of the stuff discussed here has been already discussed over there

http://www.hungkyun.com/forum/viewto...er=asc&start=0

for anybody interested, please read it

different persons, different points of view. i know what we do, others see what they would like to see - be it good or bad, fair or not.

all the best

[Lucas]

this is kind of a rediculous question, that doesnt really deserve an answer.

do martial artists hit things and spar/fight with contact?


if they are a martial artist, then it is a requirement.

if people assume that by also have a form or two in your practice refrains you from being able to mix it up with contact. then these people are not only delusional, but most likely technically retarded.

[sanjuro_ronin]

I just mailed the owner of the hung kuen clip about this discussion here..so at least he can take his stand (if he can be bothered)..thought it would be only fair..

I know its not fair to rag on that clip, context of what they are doing is not clear.
Is it typical pad work that one sees in a boxing/MT/Kb/MMA gym?
No.
Still, one doesn't know what drill they were working on or the level of the students.

[sanjuro_ronin]

Providing resistance to his punches and not just holding the pad there DOES increase punching power - that's why boxers do it... if that weren't the case boxers would hit birthday balloons and not heavybags.

I have had more people hold the pads for me than I care to remember, some slap it down, some don't.
Trainer debate that, some slap too much, so not enough.
Its a personal preference actually.

[sanjuro_ronin]

I hit everything:
Makiwara
IP bag, hanging IP bag
Bag full of sand and rocks
Punching bag
Thai pads
Focus mitts
Wooden dummy
Trees
Rocks
Can's of baby formula
Tables
Chairs
The neighbour
His wife ( in a very different way )
Assorted woodland creatures
The guy the decides to mow his lawn at 8 in the morning on a Sunday.
His wife and their 20 year old nanny from Guatemala ( in a very different way :P )
The pizza guy
That schmuck that decides that traffic laws are not applicable to him
His wife ( in a very different way :P ).

etc...

[lkfmdc]

I hit everything:
The neighbour
His wife ( in a very different way )
Assorted woodland creatures ( same way as neighbor's wife )
etc...

TMI man, TMI

[sanjuro_ronin]

TMI man, TMI

Beaver is Beaver.

[banditshaw]

I hit everything:
His wife ( in a very different way )


His wife and their 20 year old nanny from Guatemala ( in a very different way :P )

His wife ( in a very different way :P ).

etc...

Are you sure their names aren't Rosy?

[golden arhat]

You haven't seen the vid of him tapping out to an 'ear grind' in under two minutes? Its famous!

show me that bro ???

[unkokusai]

show me that bro ???

Its in here:


http://www.bullshido.org/Rudy_Abel

[1bad65]

Cardio? they are moving quite well enough for some cardio work. Anybody that has throw punches at a bag for a length of time gets cardio.

BWWWAAAHHHHH!!!!!

Because we all know you are an expert on cardio!!!

[WinterPalm]

Beaver is Beaver.

C'mon guy, that's our national animal...show some respect.

[David Jamieson]

Its in here:


http://www.bullshido.org/Rudy_Abel

omg. what a pack of tools dedicating a site to bitch about Rudy.

that is hilarious!! not to mention definitive of the nerdy toolness that is that site. hahaha.