Hello

[1bad65]

Anyway, if you didn't have to pay a dime, would you make such a call?

If anyone volunteers to call, I will get them the money.

[KC Elbows]

Don't forget, the first post did contain the same grammar and capitalization errors Fox is well known for.

Are those common errors? It's not so reliable to draw conclusions this way.

Regardless, there's no real reason, if you have a German speaker willing to make the call, not to do it, since it would actually answer your question through the only relevant first-hand source you need. Why not do so?

EDIT- as I was writing this, you answered it, that is all.

[Toby]

OK, I read the transcript again on bullshido (found via google). German sentence structure is different to English (that's actually where I'd have problems, constructing sentences on the fly since I can't think in that structure any more). The whole transcript has more or less English structure. German people writing/speaking in English will show the differences every 3-4 sentences at most. For someone to write that transcript they must have extensive English experience. Not impossible for a German native, but it implies they have significant skills and could handle themselves with native English speakers no problem. I knew people with far weaker English who'd understand the gist of a conversation between native English speakers.

[1bad65]

Are those common errors?

With Fox they are. Especially capitalization errors and verb tense.

[1bad65]

"Hello from Germany, I was the Shodakan Instructor in Stockstadt Germany when Tom Fox was there."

Wouldn't someone living in Germany use the word 'here' instead of 'there'? Hmmm.....

[KC Elbows]

OK, I read the transcript again on bullshido (found via google). German sentence structure is different to English (that's actually where I'd have problems, constructing sentences on the fly since I can't think in that structure any more). The whole transcript has more or less English structure. German people writing/speaking in English will show the differences every 3-4 sentences at most. For someone to write that transcript they must have extensive English experience. Not impossible for a German native, but it implies they have significant skills and could handle themselves with native English speakers no problem. I knew people with far weaker English who'd understand the gist of a conversation between native English speakers.

And you know he didn't use proofreaders whose native tongue was english how?

I know this isn't your argument, but if someone cares this much, that's not really the way to answer the question, it only suggests that there might be a question.

I mean, if ten pages later you're still on this discussion and no call was made, you will have wasted more time than just calling would waste.

[1bad65]

And you know he didn't use proofreaders whose native tongue was english how?

Because of all the capitalization errors. A proofreader would have fixed those.

[Toby]

And you know he didn't use proofreaders whose native tongue was english how?

To make a post on a forum? Unlikely.

I mean, if ten pages later you're still on this discussion and no call was made, you will have wasted more time than just calling would waste.

I like to procrastinate. Like you, I've wasted tons of time on all these boring flamewars. KFO is slow these days. Flamewars are all that keep it alive. It was way busier and more interesting when I was more involved a few years ago.

[1bad65]

Toby, can you address Post #200 please?

[Toby]

Minor detail, not conclusive one way or another in either English or German IMHO. E.g. he could now be living elsewhere in Germany so he'd say "there".

[KC Elbows]

To make a post on a forum? Unlikely.

Wait, it's a forum post, not a transcript? I'm a bit confused.

Never mind. I get your point.

[1bad65]

This came off my forum. His name is Wolfgang Lang.

Wolfgang Mar 05, 2008
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Hello from Germany, I was the Shodakan Instructor in Stockstadt Germany when Tom Fox was there. He trained with me for almost 3 years. He was my one very good American Friend. Tom was very good back then and that was in 1982 to 1985, I think those were the years he was there. Anyway, we went to a full contact tournament in Germany. Tom was always trying to spar with people. I told him him would not do very well because he kept using illegal technics. He told me that is how he learned to fight in California leaning Kung Fu.
He got to fight as a yellow belt against a brown belt and knocked this guy out of the ring in the first 5 seconds. Tom lost that fight by 1 point. The second fight he knocked his opponent out, The 3rd fight he kept pounding the guy in the ribs. On his 4th fight, Tom swept the other fighter's feet out from under him and then jumped on him. I saw Tom get hit with everything they could throw and him and Tom would just laugh and go after them. He was a Scary fighter. I would not try to start anything with Tom. He will probably hurt someone very bad.
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[1bad65]

Notice anything suspicious about it?

One thing REALLY sticks out.....

[KC Elbows]

I don't know, what?

[SimonM]

I stopped caring about three hijacked threads ago.