The Ultimate Fighter

[truewrestler]

check out the preview after the credits for some clips of the fight next week

[kyklos]

oooo i wanna see them fight

angry angry Chris

my guess is he's gonna open a big ol' can on Josh

this oughta be a great fight. I like how each show something totally diffirent happens, its not the usual; challenge then one person leaves.

more like ass kickin then someone leaves

[Ray Pina]

So, what if a Kung Fu guy wanted to challenge one of these guys, if they were the same weight and all? I'm sure these MMA would love to stomp on a pajama wearer. Anybody here can make something like that happen?

[truewrestler]

if you really want something to happen...

post your challenge or request for info here:
http://mma.tv/TUF/

and maybe at the show forums here:
http://www.theultimatefighter.tv/forum/forum.php?fid=1

but be prepare to be flamed

good luck

[Ray Pina]

Thank you. I signed up but there were links to every forum but the shows. I'll try again later.

Ray

PS
Why the rolley eyes? If given the opportuity to fight any of those guys minus Chuck or Randy .... on national TV -- I would jump on it. You wouldn't?

[Ford Prefect]

Ray Pina,

If you go to the mma.tv forum's page, you can post your challenge in the "Underground Forum". Pro fighters like Tito Ortiz and Royce Gracie post there amung many amateurs. You will be taken up on your challenge pretty quickly I'm sure. Post the town you live in, so local guys can step up if they want to. If you are near Boston, I can help you contact people. Be prepared to put up... If you try to stall or delay a fight, they'll see that as you chickenning out as it has happenned many, many times in the past.

[Ford Prefect]

BTW, thanks again, TW!

[Ray Pina]

I've been training well with the intention of going out but my master is very set on making sure I have it right before I do so again .... just that this is a great opportunity -- to fight THOSE GUYS on THAT SHOW.

Other than that I have friends at Gracie's school in Manhattan and Mr. Ross has developed an open MMA event locally .... I've been staying a way from both because I intend to eventually be competing against these men. What I am training is different. Notice I did not say better or worse, just different.

I have a HUGE advantage ... I know what to expect from them but they have no idea of what to expect from an E-Chuan stylist. I tend to take advantage of that. How long? I'm hoping within 18 months. It's my master's call. I've been trying to practice patience.

At the same time, if you have a random MMA friend in the neighborhood, I'm in Long Beach, NY, and always interested in a friendly game of wits.

[truewrestler]

the first link doesn't have a show forum, just post on the main forum requesting info

no, I would definitely not start my MMA career by challenging someone considered one of the best in the nation. I don't think you understand the level that the guys on the show are at. I would jump at the chance to train with any of them but I see no point in getting completely owned. I would train my ass off for MMA and start at local shows and work my way up if I was serious about it.

I roll my eyes because I don't see what the point is in challenging one of them? To prove Kung Fu? Do you have any legit standup and groundskills? Ever fought MMA in your life? If you have been doing MMA type training and believe you have some phenominal skills then that's great and I wish you luck. If you haven't then you need to wake up and be realistic.

Just trying to be helpful. I don't know you and have no idea of your skill level. I'm just working off a stereotype I have of a KungFuer who would challenge a top MMA figher. My #1 advice is to check out an MMA school in your area (NY right? Renzo Gracie and Matt Serra's schools come to mind) and see how training is and how you compare to the students there. If you haven't had much exposure to grappling and MMA this will be a huge eye opener.

[Ray Pina]

"Do you have any legit standup and groundskills? Ever fought MMA in your life? "

Yes. Yes. Yes.

Do you think I live in a vacuum? I know perfectly well what can happen going into a cage with a trained fighter.

At the same time, for the right reason I'll fight anyone. They are just men. And from the two shows I watched they are not particularly impressive men on many grounds.

I wouldn't want to fight Chuck or Randy yet ... I need more experience. But I would certainly fight the others. I'm not impressed by their stand up game. And from what I've seen, their ground game is regular.

I don't hold some mysterious thing with MMA. One good shot to the chin, an elbow on their exposed collar bone, and they're hurting like anyone else made of flesh and bone. The best man wins .... usually.

[Face2Fist]

Originally posted by Ray Pina
I've been training well with the intention of going out but my master is very set on making sure I have it right before I do so again .... just that this is a great opportunity -- to fight THOSE GUYS on THAT SHOW.

Other than that I have friends at Gracie's school in Manhattan and Mr. Ross has developed an open MMA event locally .... I've been staying a way from both because I intend to eventually be competing against these men. What I am training is different. Notice I did not say better or worse, just different.

I have a HUGE advantage ... I know what to expect from them but they have no idea of what to expect from an E-Chuan stylist. I tend to take advantage of that. How long? I'm hoping within 18 months. It's my master's call. I've been trying to practice patience.
.

is another one of those that has been training in kung fu and can beat people with it... HA!!!

same people that after they fall on their backs they are like turtles

[Ford Prefect]

Ray Pina,

I've rolled with Gracie's, guys who've fought in the UFC/Pride/Abu Dhabi, and I've also rolled with a guy on that show... If you think some of those guys' ground game is regular, then you have absolutely no clue. They hear that "in 18 months I'll be ready to fight MMA" stuff all the time. Save your breath until you are ready and have actually proven yourself at local shows. You aren't going to get a fight with some of the best fighters in the country right off the bat. If you insist on one, then it's obvious that it's a cop out.

[Ray Pina]

I'm not insisting anything and understand what you are saying. I posted on their board. All I am saying is that MMA say kung fu never wants to put up. I will put up to fight on that show if given the opportunity. What do they have to lose? Certainly its in the budget to fly someone out there? If they don't like it, they could edit it out.

If they beat the hell out of me, its good for them .... shows how much better they are than average martial artists, good for ratings too.

I'm not fighting right now (at least not in anything official), but I though it wouldn't hurt to try. If I listened to every person who told me I shouldn't fight because I can ruin a handsome face or shouldn't surf that wave because its to shallow .... well, I wouldn't be me. I believe in what my master is teaching me and my ability to protect myself.

[Face2Fist]

ray

have you trained in grappling? if so how many years?
also any other form of striking (ie boxing, muay thai)?

just wondering

[Ray Pina]

My first experience with grappling was back in the day when I was doing Isshin-Ryu. But everything has changed since meeting my master so to be honest, I can say I only have 3 years of experience.

...
Listen, I don't know what the big deal is. I train and simply sought to fight someone that could help me. If I fight some random MMA guy what does that do for me? I can get hurt, and if I beat him nobody sees it, and if they do they just say he's no good anyway.

I'll be out fighting in a major circuit somewhere somehow soon enough. I've just caught a few episodes of that show and frankly, I think I can hang with those guys.

For those with MMA connections though, you can now say a kung fu guy has challenged some MMA guys. Maybe you can make this happen. I'll fight any of those guys on the show minus Chuck or Randy.