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    nothing new here...

    ...'cept that it made a Malaysian newspaper...
    Roth 'n' rapper to team on martial arts opus

    Hostel dude Eli Roth and rapper RZA are working on a martial arts epic currently entitled The Man with the Iron Fist - no relation to the Marvel Comics character.

    Roth told Sci Fi Wire he was working with the rapper-producer on the script at present.

    Roth said the script calls for a number of martial arts icons to be in the mix somehow, and that RZA had the whole movie mapped out already.

    According to Roth, viewers can expect hip-hop mixed in with kung fu, a multiracial cast, and "it's going to be spectacular."

    [Published: 13-Jul-2009]
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    hip hop and kungfu go really well together. thats one of the things i dig about a lot of jet li movies.
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    yeah i agree with that. well rza has made a almost twenty year career over doing just that. so by doing it in a visual aspect like film is just the fruition of all those years. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CE3hb__ylG4 this video for tragedy was the first time he tried it and it was sick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucas View Post
    hip hop and kungfu go really well together. thats one of the things i dig about a lot of jet li movies.
    really? romeo must die and that other one he did with dmx were good? i thought they were the sh*t. as in Sh*t coming out of my a**.
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    actually romeo must die would have been a good movie if there was actually some chemistry between the two leads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doug maverick View Post
    actually romeo must die would have been a good movie if there was actually some chemistry between the two leads.
    romeo must die i kinda enjoyed.
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    No big news here...

    ...RZA has a book dropping this month so he's doing some promo interviews. I have one coming up about it soon - stay tuned. Unfortunately, he didn't say much about this film project. I asked and got a little but we stayed on topic mostly. You'll see soon...
    RZA Back to the Movies
    by JUSTIN STEWART October 5, 2009, 10:54am

    The rap game may look like the ultimate life to those peeking in through the window, but the politics and yellow tape that surrounds it makes the business more than what it comes off to be.

    Known for his ability to craft that Wu Tang sound, the RZA is also known for his work in films. Appearing in countless films, he has always had quite an interest in the Kung Fu industry. For those that didn't know, Wu Tang, Shaolin…yea put it all together.

    Immersing himself into the Afro Samurai series, the producer created a soundtrack for the show acquiring the musical talents of Big Daddy Kane, Talib Kweli and Q-Tip.

    He is currently in the process of preparing a script for a new film titled The Man With the Iron Fist alongside actor/director Eli Roth. Roth is known for his directorial work on films such as Cabin Fever and the Hostel series.

    Although no further details have been disclosed about the film, presumptions would assume that it has something to do with martial arts in some way, but it's only an assumption. Roth gave his own take on the film and work of the RZA.

    “This movie will have everything martial arts fans could want, combined with RZA's superb musical talent. The project has been his dream for years, and I'm thrilled to be a part of it. And fans should know that yes, there will be blood…This ain't no PG-13.”

    Somewhat wet behind the ears, the producer has been in the driver's seat before as a director. Although it ever came to the public eye, he once directed and starred in a film for his alter ego, Bobby Digital. Feeling that the flick did not match up to standards, it was never released, but he has stated that he still has it. In the past, the producer opened the doors to provide details on the work.

    “I still got it. I made it. Actually, I did like two 45-minute episodes. The Bobby Digital character, he's a superhero at one point, right. But then he's also just this f*cking guy in the streets at another point. I did one episode based on like, '89. I did one episode that was supposed to be like 10 years later. I've still got a lot of faith in the character. I'm hoping to maybe get a comic-book deal or something.”

    In related news, with the announcement fro Quentin Tarantino of the third installment in the Kill Bill series, there is a possibility that RZA will have his hand in the cookie jar. Although details have been scarce, RZA was a major part in the first two films as he produced, scored and orchestrated many scenes for the films.

    It seems that rap money may stretch long, but that movie money has no bounds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaolinlueb View Post
    really? romeo must die and that other one he did with dmx were good? i thought they were the sh*t. as in Sh*t coming out of my a**.
    Agreed. Especially that second one, I can't even remember the name of it.

    IMO, though I really like Jet Li, he's one of the last people who should play a 'Romeo' or romantic lead character (Jackie Chan is another). Jet acts very awkward and distant onscreen around female love-interest characters.

    Though I'm not a Hip-Hop fan, I felt the best uses of it in MA films were in European films like near the end of Kiss of the Dragon, and maybe District B13(?).
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    an update

    From the L.A. Times...
    RZA's new rap: filmmaker
    After years of tutelage under Tarantino and other masters, the student is ready to direct his first movie.
    By Chris Lee
    January 3, 2010

    Call the RZA hip-hop's foremost alchemist. The self-professed former drug dealer-turned-Grammy-winning rapper-producer has defied all odds to spin not lead into gold, but démodé pop culture and arcane philosophical beliefs into platinum disc upon platinum disc.

    And now, after spending years under the tutelage of several high-profile filmmakers, including Quentin Tarantino, he's preparing to unleash his unique mash-up sensibility on the big screen, in a project that will be part chop-socky flick, part spaghetti western and all RZA.

    As founding father of the hard-core Staten Island rap collective Wu-Tang Clan, RZA (pronounced "rizza," given name: Robert Diggs) conflated the spiritual enlightenment found in '70s kung fu movies with racially incendiary teachings from the Five-Percent Nation of Islam, adding to the mix references to Taoism and comic books, numerology and snippets of mafia don movie dialogue, articulating a plaintive yet hard-bitten ghetto cri de coeur.

    The upshot was an almost unparalleled string of hits that started with the Clan's epochal 1993 debut LP, "Enter the Wu-Tang (36 Chambers)," and encompasses such releases as Method Man's multiplatinum-selling "Tical," Raekwon the Chef's "Only Built 4 Cuban Linx . . ." (widely regarded as one of hip-hop's greatest albums) and Ol' Dirty *******'s gold-selling "Return to the 36 Chambers: The Dirty Version," another ranking rap classic.

    But after the Wu's tightly knit fabric started to unravel around 2004, RZA began to focus more on film. In recent years, he has been scoring such movies as "Blade: Trinity" and making cameo appearances in Jim Jarmusch's "Ghost Dog: The Way of the Samurai" and other films. His encyclopedic knowledge of Hong Kong cinema notwithstanding, the producer didn't have any particular ambition to set moviedom on fire. Until, that is, he got a fateful phone call from then-Miramax Co-Chairman Harvey Weinstein.

    "Hey RZA, it's Harvey," the RZA recalled, lapsing into a raspy imitation of Weinstein's cigarette-seasoned growl. "I want you to be in my movie. You got a new career now."

    Since that appearance with Clive Owen in 2005's "Derailed," RZA has built a respectable filmography with small roles in a number of high-profile, big-budget studio movies, among them Judd Apatow's "Funny People" and Ridley Scott's "American Gangster," as well as a turn in "The Hangover" director Todd Phillips' upcoming comedy, "Due Date," and Paul Haggis' "The Next Three Days" -- a role that reunited him with "Gangster" co-star Russell Crowe.

    "I'm working up in the movie business," RZA said. "Maybe in the movie business, I'm working down. How long are you going to be a celebrity? I like the art. I like how it feels to act."

    So do such other rappers-turned-actors as LL Cool J, Common, Xzibit, Ludacris, DMX, Ice Cube and even Snoop Dogg. But befitting the producer's magpie ability to glean and repackage cultural stimuli from across the high-low divide, RZA says his acting efforts are in the service of his next career act: a move behind the camera.

    With no small amount of backup from a cadre of top-flight filmmakers -- including independent cinema luminary Jarmusch and Hong Kong action movie ace John Woo, but most significantly, Tarantino -- the RZA-rector, as he is sometimes known, is now in final preparations for his debut as a writer-director, "The Man With the Iron Fist." And unlike the fates of some musicians' directorial efforts (say, Madonna's "Filth and Wisdom" or Limp Bizkit frontman Fred Durst's "The Education of Charlie Banks"), RZA's movie industry backers swear he has the right combination of creativity, chutzpah and discipline to achieve liftoff at the box office.

    Planned as a genre-busting opening salvo to the industry, the movie is being produced by "torture porn" poster boy Eli Roth, the writer-director of such low-cost, high-yield horror films as "Hostel" and "Hostel: Part II."

    (For the time being, though, both filmmakers prefer to remain mum on specific plot points, although Roth allows that "Man With the Iron Fist" should appeal to "an audience that's hungry for kung fu but not grindhouse. Something that's modern, like 'Blade.' ")

    "RZA is such a creative fountain. The script is great, he's got characters, jokes. What he does with lyrics, he does with dialogue," Roth said. "And he's done such a great mix: spaghetti western, kung fu, modern fighting infused with hip-hop and multiculture. He has this whole comic book universe figured out. I know he's going to make a brilliant film."

    Of course, none of it would be possible without Tarantino, who godfathered Roth's "Hostel" into production as an executive producer and introduced the filmmaker to RZA. A longtime admirer of Wu-Tang Clan's sonic mélange, with his own deeply felt appreciation for the Shaolin monk movie cannon, Tarantino first hired RZA to create the electro-ambient, quasi-hip-hop score for his two-volume kung fu drama " Kill Bill." But their working relationship didn't end there. Tarantino has allowed the RZA to soak up production know-how on the set of every movie he's done since 2003.

    Tarantino said he identifies with the hip-hop producer's skill in macromanaging the nine Clan members' unwieldy energies into a cohesive form. "You have to understand that even though they're very different, being a producer on a record is not too different from being a director of film -- especially with something like Wu-Tang Clan," Tarantino said. "All these guys have their different contributions. Everyone has a say. But ultimately, the album is RZA's decision. That's very similar to what a director does. It's a lot like how I was influenced by Phil Spector."

    Still, RZA says he would not make the move into filmmaking without Tarantino's explicit blessing.

    "Tarantino is my teacher," RZA said solemnly, echoing -- whether intentionally or not -- the kind of dialogue you'd hear in a martial-arts film. "I've watched hundreds of movies with him and spent hundreds of hours learning craft from him. I'm a disciple of Tarantino."

    He continued: "When Eli said, 'I want to help you make your movie,' we had to go to Quentin. The teacher. He said, 'You and Eli are ready. You have my blessing.' "

    'The Tao of Wu'

    Spend an afternoon with the RZA and, as any of his moviemaking consigliere will attest, you'll be hard-pressed not to be bowled over by the breadth of his polymathic learning. Conversation ricochets between electrical innovator Nikola Tesla and an extended recitation of what Five-Percent Nation of Islam followers call "the knowledge," from the travails of Job to RZA's sober recollection of fleeing New York's meanest streets with a stolen gold necklace, a Koran and a gun -- a story the producer elaborates on in his recently published memoir-spiritual enlightenment guide, "The Tao of Wu."
    There's a 2nd page but I kept getting an error message when trying to get there.
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    Roth already talking franchise?

    I couldn't find the original WENN interview, but I only took the web search one page in...
    8 January 2010 22:01
    RZA - ROTH: 'RZA'S KUNG FU FILM WILL BE THE FIRST OF MANY'

    Rapper RZA's new kung-fu film looks set to become a major movie franchise - if producer ELI ROTH has his way.
    The filmmaker and Inglourious Basterds star has teamed up with the Wu-Tang Clan star, real name Robert Diggs, to make The Man With The Iron Fist - and Roth is convinced his pal will be able to turn the film into a series of cult hits.
    He tells WENN, "RZA's one of the smartest, most creative people I have ever met. He's obsessed with movies the same way Quentin and I are, and his knowledge of the kung fu genre is nothing short of astounding. He knows everything, and everyone in it, and he's on a mission to reinvent the genre he loves.
    "We worked together on the script all summer, and we have watched and discussed many, many movies. He's already got the soundtrack figured out. He understands every detail of the world.
    "It's going to be something spectacular, unique, and original that stays true both to the genre and to RZA's fans. It's a really fun script. We see this film as the first step in a franchise."
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    It's on!

    RZA's 'Man With The Iron Fist' Kung Fu Film Gets Picked Up!
    May 7, 2010
    Source: Deadline
    by Alex Billington

    If you're a long-time reader, you'll know that a project I've been following is Wu-Tang Clan member RZA's kung fu project that he wrote with Eli Roth called The Man With The Iron Fist (although Deadline refers to it as Fists with the extra "s"). The good news is that Universal is making a deal to finance and distribute RZA's project, which means it'll finally start shooting later this year. The bad news is that it's Universal, who will probably mess with the film and screw up the marketing. Oh well. RZA will also play the title character, a blacksmith who forges weapons for the inhabitants of a village in feudal China, and will also direct this.

    Universal is giving them a budget of under $20 million which he'll use to shoot this in September in Hong Kong. It's described as a "stylized martial arts film" and RZA will produce the soundtrack as well as star in and direct this. Eli Roth explains how fully immersed RZA has been in this: "While I was away shooting Inglourious Basterds, RZA went to China to shoot test footage on his own, with all the choreography. It was very visual and I think he will bring to life a script that mixes kung fu with a spaghetti western mindset and a hip hop influence." That just sounds awesome. "RZA has imagined every tribe, every fighting style, every costume," Roth said. "He knows kung fu like I know horror." And that's why I can't wait to see this!

    The Man With the Iron Fist (or Fists, if that's true) will be a "bloody R rated martial arts extravaganza" that RZA developed after studying Quentin Tarantino for a few years and working with Roth. He's really putting everything into this, not only in the script, but for his feature directing debut. "I'm going to tell you that we put a lot of time into the script, a lot of energy into it, a lot of people were supporting me on it, and if the energy comes out right, it should be a classic film to have in your library." I hope that's the case! Stay tuned for more updates and potential casting coming down the road. Anyone else just as excited to see this?
    I'd love to see that test footage.
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    from what i hear from friends of mine rza has tons of stuff he shoots up in wu mountain as he calls it and he keeps it all locked away if you asked him gene he probably would show it to you. whats important here is that this movie is happening and it has a realistic budget that could net universal a nice tidy profit, so sequels are not out of the question. if it works it could boost up ma movies in the states. also we finally know what the hell this movie is about.lol

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    BTW, I did talk to RZA about this last Sunday

    RZA was in town with the Wu-Tang Clan on the Rock the Bells tour. He was kind enough to hook me up with a backstage. Rock the Bells is a big festival, so we didn't really talk that much. There were throngs of reporters and fans trying to get to him. I just congratulated him on getting bank for this project and he just grinned back.
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    this is f ucking Giant news, RZA and crowe must have really become close, cause i couldnt imagine the pay cut crow had to take, but im pretty sure they bumped the budget up to at least 30mil to give crow ten, and then he'll make the rest of his quote on the back end, plus some points.
    Russell Crowe Unleashes Kung Fu Moves!

    Today 5:00 PM PDT by Marc Malkin
    russell crowe, RZA Carlos Alvarez/Getty Images; Kevin Winter/Getty Images

    Russell Crowe is going to be kung fu fighting...with a hip-hop star!

    Read on for my exclusive scoop about the Oscar-winner's new movie gig...

    Hip-hop artist and actor RZA tells me that Crowe has signed on to costar with him in The Man With the Iron Fist, a kung fu flick the Wu-Tang Clan founder is also directing.

    RZA will play a weapons-making village blacksmith in feudal China—and as for Crowe, RZA doesn't want to say too much.

    "I won't spoil it for you, but Russell's gonna be the baddest man alive," he told me yesterday at the VMAs. "That man is in fighting shape. That man will knock you out."

    The Man With the Iron Fist (no relation to the Marvel Comic superhero Iron Fist) starts shooting in Shanghai in December. "It's nerve-wracking," RZA said of directing Crowe. "He's a master of the craft. I'm quite sure that I may learn something from him."

    Crowe and RZA worked together three years ago in Ridley Scott's American Gangster. They even recorded a song together, but Gangster producers decided not to include it on the movie's soundtrack. Both are also in the upcoming The Next Three Days from director Paul Haggis.

    The Wu-Tang Clan founder began developing the project about five years ago with the help of Quentin Tarantino and director/actor Eli Roth, the latter now a cowriter and coproducer of the flick.

    Universal reportedly green lighted Iron Fist in May with a $20 million budget


    Read more: http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/marc...#ixzz0zTfsdMJ0


    gene man im telling you need to make sure you guys have a man with the iron fist exclusive issue, with crowe and rza on the cover...sure to boost sales. since rza is playing a weapon blacksmith it could be a weapons special issue.


    P.S. i scooped gene...doug FTW...lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by doug maverick View Post
    this is f ucking Giant news, RZA and crowe must have really become close, cause i couldnt imagine the pay cut crow had to take, but im pretty sure they bumped the budget up to at least 30mil to give crow ten, and then he'll make the rest of his quote on the back end, plus some points.



    gene man im telling you need to make sure you guys have a man with the iron fist exclusive issue, with crowe and rza on the cover...sure to boost sales. since rza is playing a weapon blacksmith it could be a weapons special issue.


    P.S. i scooped gene...doug FTW...lol
    Sounds like an interesting movie, but I'm confused to how a black man is a village blacksmith in feudal China. I guess it could be an Afro Samurai sort of situation where time and race doesn't matter.

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