Originally Posted by
YouKnowWho
IMO, there is no such thing as SC take down vs. LF take down.
Trapping your opponent's leg to take him down may work against average people but with people who has "leg escape" training, you may still give him too much freedom.
If you push my right shoulder,
- (1 contact point) then I can borrow your force to spin (yield) and get out of it.
- and at the same time you hook my right leg (2 contact points) then I can still borrow your force to spin and use my body rotation to pull my right leg out of your hooking.
- and at the same time you hook my left leg (2 contact points) then I can not borrow your force to spin because you use 2 dimensional force. But since my arms are still free, I can interrupt your pushing.
- and at the same time you pull my right arm (2 contact points) then I cannot borrow your force to rotate since you pull my right arm. But since my legs are still free, I can hook my leg on your leg and make your body and my body to be one unit. Any force that you apply on me will be transferred back to you.
- and at the same time you pull my right arm, and hook one of my legs (3 contact points - whether you hook my right leg or left leg, the result will be the same) then I cannot borrow your force to rotate, and I cannot use my leg to hook yours, you have just taken my defense away.
We should not just talk about take down without talking about "how to take your opponent's defense away". We will need "one pulling arm" and "one hooking leg" along with our "pushing" in order to achieve the maximum result.
One of my LF brother also trained with him. An excellent CMA master. My Tan Tui came from GM Han Ching-Tan's student master Li Mo-Chin and I learned it in my 1st year of my senior high.