Ark Wong's Hung Gar: How does it relate to Wong Fei Hung style?

[lkfmdc]

a common misperception is that all "hung style" / "hung fist" is related to the Wong Fei Hung / Tiger-Crane lineage

There are literally hundreds of different versions of "hung style" almost to the point you begin to think "hung style" was a generic name back in the day

My personal belief is that it indeed was almost "generic" because there are three characters all pronounced "hung" and associated with various martial arts traditions in China. There is of course the family name but there is also "hero" and "red".

The "red" is particularly interesting if you examine the relationship to secret societies and underground activites. The "Hung Gwun" or "Red Poles" were the enforcers of these groups, their martial arts technical "Hung Gwun Kyuhn Seut / Fat" (Red Pole fist/martial arts techniques)... of course, when appreviated as in standard Chinese practice that phrase becomes "Hung Kyuhn" or "Hung Fist"....

[Steeeve]

Mulong

Do you refer to the Fut Ga kin of the late GM Lum dai Yong.....from hawaii...

Now Sifu Arthur Lee teach in hawaii

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NQYRuMa_x4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p37ewTbl8J0

Steeve

David

I agree with you

Steeve

[Mulong]

Steeeve,

Yes, this fojiaquan I’m referring to. I have had the opportunity have study under Li Shifu, and I also possess a hongjiaquan background; hence, I’m familiar with both styles and also being exposed to Taishanese styles that possess the same cadences, i.e., fojiaquan.

We must take into account that most southern styles possess similar techniques/postures; however, they possess their own individual cadences. For example, if you look at pre-twentieth century styles, i.e., fojiaquan, etc. have a certain staccato footwork, i.e., short rapid footwork. Whereas, twentieth styles, i.e., hongjiaquan, etc. possess more of legato footwork, i.e., long and smooth footwork.

[Steeeve]

Mulong

Gm Wong is toisanese

Hong chia is a style of the hung family ....mostly dragon tiger ....from the east south asia (malaysian ,Filipino and so on ) different of the hung ga of HK....or the
modern Wong fei hung

GM Lao Kim of hung chia from the phillipine(Filipino)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9vpYKMBmXY

Dont forget a lot of filipino influenced Kali ,arnis or eskrima ...
Kuntao have influenced the kali and silat....

Here GM Jonny Chiuten a direct student of Lao Kim....and one of the founder of the Lapunti arnis de Abaniko style ....Filipino arnis (kali) and the hung chia of GM Lao kim

http://www.beta-sigma.org/

[Mulong]

Steeeve,

Lao Shifu reminds me of Taishanese cadence that I was mentioning before, i.e., staccato footwork.

[Steeeve]

Legato/staccato

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjZ-Se_0jzI

[Mulong]

Steeeve,

Cool; as you can see from his demonstration the staccato cadence, is a short burst of energy, i.e., tight; it also doesn't cover to much ground. When you look at cailifoquan, you see a legato cadence; open and covering its fair amount of ground.