hi. lung ying has pretty much every aspect of hand to hand combat except groundfighting, with an emphasis on smashing a weak guard or tricking a strong guard to open and then grabbing whatever is presented (throat, limb, crotch), sucking it in and destroying it in the process of destroying the opponent. what a teacher chooses to teach of the system depends upon his depth of knowledge, personal experience and preference. you get a guy who's been smacking around in brawls, he probably isn't going to teach you cum la sau. you get a guy who dedicated a long period of life to studying the intricacies of the art, and he probably isnt going to insist on the brutal conditioning. people are just different nowadays.
i think that more important than learning all the hands and all the forms, all the ranges and all the capabilities of an art, is to understand its practicality to what you want to achieve or learn within your span of study. if you find yourself deeply immersed later on in your adventure, okay, THEN it is time to debate these things about what your style does or does not have, and begin to explore how deep the rabbit hole goes. so many forms have been created just within this style alone that it leaves people wondering more about the "where did it come from" than the "what does it have to offer". some lung ying forms were created almost completely out of a 3-hand combination that existed umpteen years ago. but we look at the trees and miss the forest.
there's no veil, just people who want to get the knowledge before they are really able to understand it. a bit like a 14 year old going to Yale. yeah sure he wants it, but can he really "get it"? the information is out there. the path is pretty friggin' forked though, pun intended. maybe some teachers get it, maybe others don't. we are all human. 
East River Dragon Style, Lam Family
東河龍形 - 林家拳, 林志平,師傅
Reply With Quote
I think the true is always out there somewhere and may be it is in Hong Kong after all. 
Originally Posted by meltdawn
