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[sanjuro_ronin]

No. I don't travel Communist countries.

What did I post that was untrue?

For one, I saw plenty of Volvos, Mercedes and Toyotas there too.
And yes, it is exploited by Castro and his government, in that they are very "democratic and capitalistic", american even.


You should travel more, it might give you a better idea of things.

[KC Elbows]

Are you insane?

Castro stripped Cuba bare. Hell, the Cubans still drive American cars from the 1950s! Nothing is being produced there because there is no motivation to succeed. The only ones who benefitted from the 'great peoples revolution' down there was Castro and his cronies. Hell, Castro is one of the worlds richest people, yet his people still live under forced food and milk rationing.

If you send anything to Cuba, the government gets first crack at it. How much do you think actually gets to the Cuban people?

So, Batista's regime did not run on corruption, and the corrupt, in fleeing, left with nothing and all left destitute? Interesting. Unprecedented. Thank you for this history lesson.

Out of curiosity, what distinguishes Castro's purges from the customary purges under other Latin American revolutionary leaders?

[1bad65]

So, Batista's regime did not run on corruption, and the corrupt, in fleeing, left with nothing and all left destitute? Interesting. Unprecedented. Thank you for this history lesson.

Out of curiosity, what distinguishes Castro's purges from the customary purges under other Latin American revolutionary leaders?

You totally missed my earlier point, didn't you?

I'll type it again. A dictator is a dictator. Should Castro get a pass for the rationing while he is a billionaire, political prisons, and summary executions because Batista was a dictator himself?

[1bad65]

For one, I saw plenty of Volvos, Mercedes and Toyotas there too.
And yes, it is exploited by Castro and his government, in that they are very "democratic and capitalistic", american even.


You should travel more, it might give you a better idea of things.

That's sad you would go there. Did you travel alone, anywhere you wanted? Did you go the public hospitals or only the ones in the 'tourist areas'? Did you have to survive on the rations the Cuban people have to, or did you get to eat what you could afford? Did you drink milk?

If it was so great, have you considered moving there? It's not uncommon for people who vacation somewhere to move there on a permanent basis ya know.

[sanjuro_ronin]

That's sad you would go there. Did you travel alone, anywhere you wanted? Did you go the public hospitals or only the ones in the 'tourist areas'? Did you have to survive on the rations the Cuban people have to, or did you get to eat what you could afford? Did you drink milk?

If it was so great, have you considered moving there? It's not uncommon for people who vacation somewhere to move there on a permanent basis ya know.

I have gone there on business and on vacation, I have seen the good and the awful of Cuba, up close and first hand.
Just like I have seen the good and the awful in the States and here, and in Europe and most recently, China, Taiwan and Macao.
When in Cuba a went were I wanted to go, yes, even in Havana *gasp*
Detroit was more dangerous.
Would I live there?
Never really though of that, I have chosen to be Canadian, having been born Portuguese, it was MY CHOICE, far more symbolic then simply being born one if you ask me.
You really should travel and see things for yourself.

[KC Elbows]

You totally missed my earlier point, didn't you?

I'll type it again. A dictator is a dictator. Should Castro get a pass for the rationing while he is a billionaire, political prisons, and summary executions because Batista was a dictator himself?

Let's consider your points like radioactive isotopes or something like that.

Isotope Batista-1 stated that clearly Cubans would elect Batista over Castro.

Due to Batista's historic inability to win elections, and that no one likes a loser strong-man, the half-life on Batista-1 proved to be about as long as it takes for you to hit the post button. Hence, you added a couple of what we'll call feautons to the argument, creating the before unseen Batista-3 isotope, in which I am defending Castro against Batista, then you used tachyon emissions to send Batista-3 back in time, replacing the lesser Batista-1 isotope with the superior Batista-3 isotope, so that I was no longer arguing about Batista's electability, but my own love of Castro.

Now, in the new future you have created, I love Castro, Cubans drive Model T's, and Batista could blow Bill Clinton and still get elected. Now, the question you now ask is, should he get a free ride for murdering his way into power, because Batista did? Well, since our government quickly backed Batista after his shenanigans, combined with the Theory on The Conservation of Stupid, I think you have the answer of the American government. If your opinion differs, you must not be American, so get off my internet, you lazy Canadian.*



*Here we see the Rove-1 particle, strongly believed to have an eight year half-life.

[sanjuro_ronin]

Let's consider your points like radioactive isotopes or something like that.

Isotope Batista-1 stated that clearly Cubans would elect Batista over Castro.

Due to Batista's historic inability to win elections, and that no one likes a loser strong-man, the half-life on Batista-1 proved to be about as long as it takes for you to hit the post button. Hence, you added a couple of what we'll call feautons to the argument, creating the before unseen Batista-3 isotope, in which I am defending Castro against Batista, then you used tachyon emissions to send Batista-3 back in time, replacing the lesser Batista-1 isotope with the superior Batista-3 isotope, so that I was no longer arguing about Batista's electability, but my own love of Castro.

Now, in the new future you have created, I love Castro, Cubans drive Model T's, and Batista could blow Bill Clinton and still get elected. Now, the question you now ask is, should he get a free ride for murdering his way into power, because Batista did? Well, since our government quickly backed Batista after his shenanigans, combined with the Theory on The Conservation of Stupid, I think you have the answer of the American government. If your opinion differs, you must not be American, so get off my internet, you lazy Canadian.*



*Here we see the Rove-1 particle, strongly believed to have an eight year half-life.

The only part I got was lazy Canadian !

[SimonM]

1badscardeycat: You are really a very afraid man aren't you.

I have never been to Cuba; can't afford it at the moment and after university I went to China instead.

I do, however, have plenty of friends who went.

Their experiences matched those of sanjuro ronin. Apparently the non-tourist parts of Havana have kickass nightlife.

As for whether I would live there: if I got a good job offer I just might (I did live in China after all). But in the end I'd come back to Canada because I love it here.

What can I say? Maple Syrup runs through my veins.

[KC Elbows]

The only part I got was lazy Canadian !

Sorry, I was typing fast and forgot that one should always parse away unnecessary words. Canadian.

[sanjuro_ronin]

You are really a very afraid man aren't you.

I have never been to Cuba; can't afford it at the moment and after university I went to China instead.

I do, however, have plenty of friends who went.

Their experiences matched those of 1bad65. Apparently the non-tourist parts of Havana have kickass nightlife.

Not sure what you mean here...

As for the Havana night life, it is something, but watch your back, its not as bad as Mexico or Miami ( ) but you have to be alert.

[sanjuro_ronin]

Sorry, I was typing fast and forgot that one should always parse away unnecessary words. Canadian.

Rooster blower.

[SimonM]

Good god!!! Sorry man. I totally typoed there and put the wrong screen name in the blank.

Please forgive me.

Got my pocket picked by Dengfeng night life. I do watch my back these days regardless.

Or at least my wallet.

[KC Elbows]

Rooster blower.

Too lazy to link a pic, I see!

[1bad65]

I have seen the good and the awful of Cuba, up close and first hand.

At least you admit there is bad. Simon seems to think socialism is paradise. You do admit you would not want to live somewhere with no elections or live on the rations, media blackouts, political prisons, that the average Cuban has to deal with, correct?

You really should travel and see things for yourself.

I travel. I just cannot in good conscience travel to any dictatorship. To me that is condoning it. FYI, I'm not judging you, just stating how I look at it.

[1bad65]

1badscardeycat: You are really a very afraid man aren't you.

I'll admit I am fearful of having to live in any dictatorship. Castro is a dictator. As was Mao, Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, etc. It's really that simple.