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    Oscar worthy?

    If this manages to get the academy's attention, MMA flicks become a whole new ballgame.
    In ‘Warrior,’ Does Lionsgate Know it has a ‘Rocky’?
    By Sharon Waxman at TheWrap
    Wed Sep 7, 2011 4:31am EDT

    A movie with tons of heart, about regular people rising to life’s challenges, facing impossible odds and succeeding. A movie about family. About the trauma of war. About manhood, and raw-knuckled, bare-footed competition between them.

    Warrior,’ a movie that upon seeing for the second time tonight I am convinced could be a stealth break-out hit and a contender for the Oscars if enough people see it.

    It’s certainly one of the few movies I’ve seen this year to remind me of the power of story–telling on the big screen.

    But does Lionsgate know what it has on its hands?

    In the hands of Harvey Weinstein, ‘Warrior’ would sail into a Best Picture nomination. When I asked a Lionsgate executive about Oscar plans, I got a response that went something like: ‘Depends how things go at the box office.’

    The studio ought to believe.

    The story is of two estranged brothers, who through a series of circumstances end up fighting one another in the finals of a mixed martial arts tournament.

    It may not sound like the movie for you (and definitely not for me), but you’d be wrong.

    One of the things I like best about the film is the actors are barely known: Tom Hardy (now shooting in "The Dark Knight Rises") plays Tommy, an AWOL Marine so filled with rage and pain that he can barely move but to punch and kick at things.

    Joel Edgerton (about to play Tom Buchanan in "The Great Gatsby") plays his older brother Brendan, a teacher and family man forced to fall back on back-room martial arts fighting to stave off foreclosure on his home.

    Nick Nolte offers a moving portrait of a father and alcoholic, striving to make amends for a lifetime of failing his two sons.

    And Jennifer Morrison – best known for Fox's "House" – plays Brendan’s level-headed wife.

    The independent studio has held the movie’s release for two years, according to several people I talked to close to the film. In chatting at the after-party, Nolte said the studio was waiting to see if Tom Hardy (“Inception”) would become a break-out star.

    A Lionsgate executive said they were just waiting for “the right moment,” though I’m not sure what that means.

    The writer and director Gavin O’Connor cried at length in introducing the film at the Arclight Hollywood. While his emotion was certainly unexpected, he did say this:

    “Every studio passed. Every studio, every film financier.” Then Lionsgate’s head of production Joe Drake took a meeting and told O’Connor that they would make the film.

    O'Connor added: “I’m grateful to be an underdog film at an underdog studio.”

    If that’s the case, then this underdog studio needs to believe that it has something special, because it does.

    At a time when Americans are hurting, this story of two brothers – one suffering from the war in Iraq, the other struggling to maintain his dignity in providing for his family at home – will surely strike a chord with regular people.

    Thirty-five years ago, another film came out of nowhere and told a story of a down-on-his-luck fighter at a time when Americans needed to believe that a little guy could overcome the odds.

    “Rocky” went on to win three Oscars and make more than $100 million.

    "Warrior" could go the distance. The movie opens September 9.
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    Today's reviews...

    Chicago Trib's review
    Brothers, brawls and baggage in 'Warrior'
    'Warrior' — 2 1/2 stars
    Michael Phillips Movie critic
    12:00 a.m. CDT, September 8, 2011

    The feverish mixed martial arts infomercial "Warrior" opens up so many cans of emotional whup-ass that after a while you think: Enough! It's whupped! It's whupped! And yet the tears will flow by the gallon.

    Every time you start resisting, somehow the film makes the sale, again. Director and co-writer Gavin O'Connor is a full-throated entertainer, meaning he goes for the throat every second.

    He's also an escape artist, writing his characters into outlandishly cliched corners and then charging his way out against unbelievable odds.

    The acting elevates it, even when the narrative doesn't. After a 14-year separation, Iraq War veteran Tommy Conlon returns to the Pittsburgh home of his father, Paddy, who is nearly three years sober.

    Paddy did an awful lot of physical and psychic damage to his family before drying out, however. In dribs and drabs "Warrior" leaks the details regarding how Paddy's ex-wife and Brendan, Tommy's older brother, fled the toxic home, while Paddy and Tommy stayed behind and suffered. Tommy's trust in his abandoning brother turned to ash; Brendan married his high school sweetheart, played by Jennifer Morrison.

    Years later, with kids and bills in his life, Brendan teaches high school physics and brawls, MMA-style, for cash on the side. The bank's due to foreclose on the house in 90 days. Solution: Compete in the event called Sparta, "the Super Bowl of mixed martial arts," in Atlantic City.

    That would be enough for a lot of films, but "Warrior" is a lot of films in one film. Brendan's estranged brother, Tommy, returns from combat with a major secret provoking all that rage and self-loathing. Though his brother doesn't know it, Tommy, too, is after the $5 million MMA purse, and has his sights set on one of the 16 middleweight slots. Does the final match come down to brother against brother? I wouldn't rule it out.

    Over-the-top performances would've destroyed "Warrior" by the second scene. But O'Connor encourages a naturalistic low simmer, even though his story beats are all about kettles boiling over (and over). Tom Hardy, formidable in "Bronson" and soon to menace Batman in "The Dark Knight Rises," plays the combustible veteran Tommy. Hardy, who is English, isn't without his mannered edge, but he's full of heat and unpredictable fire and responds well to the working-class Pittsburgh milieu. Australian-born Joel Edgerton brings a decency and likability to Brendan. The characters never seem like real brothers (they're movie brothers through and through), but the actors commit. And it's gratifying to see Nick Nolte do everything in his grumbly, shambling power to make a fully dimensional character out of Paddy.

    O'Connor scored a popular success with the Olympic-hockey rouser "Miracle" and then fared less well with the drunken-father/dueling sons police melodrama "Pride and Glory." "Warrior" lands somewhere in between in terms of quality. Despite (or because of) O'Connor's ham-fisted technique, though, there's no question the story lands its punches. And kicks. And body-slams. The way it's filmed here, mixed martial arts is made to look like a sport roughly on the finesse level of weed-whacking. But it all comes down to a memorably manipulative fight to the finish, and a fight for pride and glory, and a testament to miracles and the oldest heart-tugs in the movie book. Tommy, we hear, once "ripped the door off a tank" to save lives. "Warrior" goes about its escapist mission the same way.

    mjphillips@tribune.com

    'Warrior' -- 2 1/2 stars

    MPAA rating: PG-13 (for sequences of intense mixed martial arts fighting, some language and thematic material)

    Cast: Tom Hardy (Tommy Conlon); Joel Edgerton (Brendan Conlon); Jennifer Morrison (Tess Conlon); Frank Grillo (Frank Campana); Nick Nolte (Paddy Conlon)

    Credits: Directed by Gavin O'Connor; written by O'Connor, Anthony Tambakis and Cliff Dorfman; produced by Gavin O'Connor and Greg O'Connor. A Lionsgate release. Running time: 2:19
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    Can't forget the NYT review...Google shows 237 articles at the time of this posting.
    Warrior (2011)
    Isaac, Esau and Muscles
    By A. O. SCOTT
    Published: September 8, 2011

    At one point in “Warrior” we see Brendan Conlon, a high school science teacher, laying down the law — the law of physics that is — for his students. “Force equals mass times acceleration,” he writes on the board. That formula might be of use in thinking this new film from Gavin O’Connor, which grasps the Newtonian principles at the heart of pugilistic melodrama.

    “Warrior” takes place in the world of mixed martial arts, and it is appropriately blunt, powerful and relentless, a study of male bodies in sweaty motion and masculine emotions in teary turmoil.

    But like the brutal, brawling sport that provides Mr. O’Connor with a backdrop, a storehouse of metaphors and a pretext for staging some viscerally effective fight scenes, “Warrior” possesses surprising poetry and finesse. Which is not to say that it is subtle. The director’s impressive technique — and all the grace and discipline of his excellent, hard-working cast — is mustered with a single, unambiguous goal in mind. This movie wants to knock you out. It will.

    Brendan (Josh Edgerton) is a dedicated educator and a devoted family man. His students adore him, and so does his wife, Tess (Jennifer Morrison). But Brendan’s roots and his future are entangled in more violent pursuits. He used to be something of a big deal on the mixed martial arts circuit, and now, to make some extra money — and perhaps also to find an outlet for the rage that simmers behind his kindly eyes and gentle grin — he fights for cash in parking lots. As hard as they work, Brendan and Tess have trouble staying afloat. They are, indeed, under water, carrying debt on their modest house in Philadelphia that is much larger than its post-real-estate-bubble value. And one of their children requires expensive medical care.

    Meanwhile Tommy (Tom Hardy), Brendan’s estranged younger brother, returns to the modest house in Pittsburgh where they grew up. Years before, Tommy and their mother (whose maiden name he has adopted) fled the boys’ abusive, alcoholic father, Paddy, a wrestling coach played with growling, broken-down grandeur by Nick Nolte. Tommy, a former Marine who served in Iraq, is not looking for reconciliation. He’s looking for a fight, and without forgiving his sobered-up, apologetic dad, he engages the old man’s professional services as he prepares to go into the ring.

    Unbeknownst to each other, both Tommy and Brendan — who is coached by an old friend (Frank Grillo) — are training for Sparta, a $5 million, winner-take-all tournament. Every sports movie needs a Big Game, and in Mr. O’Connor’s hands Sparta becomes a frenzied, fleshy opera: a grand, grunting, assaultive spectacle of redemption and revenge.

    Tommy’s style of fighting recalls that of the young, unbeatable Mike Tyson. He attacks with a combination of speed and strength that turns an opponent’s bravado into fear in a matter of seconds. Brendan relies more on technical finesse and a capacity to withstand punishment. Mr. Hardy and Mr. Edgerton — an Englishman and an Australian playing a pair of Irish-American he-men — are physically potent actors, but the key to the movie’s effectiveness lies in their ability to convey fragility. These are tough guys, but you can only care about them if you believe that they can break.

    At the basic level of plot, what will happen at Sparta is never really in doubt. Though there are other imposing fighters in the Spartan ranks — including a fearsome Russian who recalls (though he does not physically resemble) Dolph Lundgren in “Rocky IV” — it is obvious that the bad brotherly blood between Tommy and Brendan can be expiated only one way, in a final showdown.

    Mr. O’Connor, who wrote the “Warrior” screenplay with Anthony Tambakis and Cliff Dorfman, knows perfectly well that surprise is not the essence of sports-movie suspense. A few years back he directed “Miracle,” a rousing reconstruction of one of the most celebrated athletic moments in recent history, the 1980 victory of the underdog United States Olympic ice hockey team over its fearsome Soviet rival. It’s not as if knowing the outcome of the real story diminishes that movie’s impact. On the contrary, the sense of inevitability and improbability makes its triumphant finish all the more cathartic.

    The engine of inevitability in “Warrior” is not history but fate. Paddy’s constant companion in his lonely, sober old age is an audio-book version of “Moby-****.” That novel’s theme of monomaniacal, violent obsession and the Shakespearean cadences of its prose underline what is happening on screen in a way that is only occasionally heavy-handed. (And in any case a good fight picture, like a good fighter, can benefit from a heavy hand.) Brendan, Tommy and Paddy uphold traditional family values — the tradition, that is, of Cain and Abel, Jacob and Esau, King Lear and the fallen houses of ancient Greek tragedy.

    But if there is something primal and archaic in Mr. O’Connor’s fable of fathers and sons, he nonetheless grounds it in the painful realities of contemporary America. With arresting honesty and enormous compassion — but without making a big topical deal out of it — “Warrior” looks at an American working class reeling from the one-two punch of war and recession. Tommy and Brendan are too proud for self-pity, which makes the evident pain of their circumstances all the more affecting.

    They fight because every other way of being a man has been compromised, undermined or taken away. Patriarchal authority, as represented by Paddy, is cruel and unbending until it turns sentimental and pathetic. The roads to an honorable life promised by work and military service are mined and muddied by the greed and mendacity of the institutions — government, schools, banks — that are supposed to uphold integrity.

    In such conditions stripping down to your shorts and beating another guy senseless can seem not only logical, but also noble. The mock-gladiatorial theatrics of mixed martial arts may look tawdry and overblown, but the sport, perhaps even more than boxing, expresses a deep and authentic impulse to find meaning through the infliction and acceptance of pain. While the Conlon brothers are both fighting for the money, the real stakes are much deeper. Though their climactic confrontation is terrifyingly violent, it is also tender. And the most disarming thing about “Warrior” is that, for all its mayhem, it is a movie about love.

    “Warrior” is rated PG-13 (Parents strongly cautioned). A lot of fighting.

    WARRIOR

    Opens on Friday nationwide.

    Directed by Gavin O’Connor; written by Mr. O’Connor, Anthony Tambakis and Cliff Dorfman, based on a story by Mr. O’Connor and Mr. Dorfman; director of photography, Masanobu Takayanagi; edited by John Gilroy, Sean Albertson, Matt Chessé and Aaron Marshall; music by Mark Isham; production design by Dan Leigh; costumes by Abigail Murray; produced by Gavin O’Connor and Greg O’Connor; released by Lionsgate. Running time: 2 hours 19 minutes.

    WITH: Joel Edgerton (Brendan), Tom Hardy (Tommy), Jennifer Morrison (Tess), Frank Grillo (Frank Campana) and Nick Nolte (Paddy).
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    opens today

    We'll have our official review up in a few hours.
    'Warrior' review: Solid drama packs painful wallop
    Amy Biancolli, Hearst Movie Writer
    Friday, September 9, 2011

    POLITE APPLAUSE Sports drama. Directed by Gavin O'Connor. Starring Joel Edgerton and Tom Hardy. (PG-13. 140 minutes. At Bay Area theaters.)

    If "Warrior" were a boxing movie, I would have these three things to say about it: Solid drama. Convincingly acted. Conventional.

    But it's a mixed martial arts movie, a much rougher beast of a subgenre. So my three observations are: Solid drama. Convincingly acted. Ouch. If you've ever seen any mixed martial arts, or MMA, you'll understand the "ouch." There is no more painful-looking organized sport in the modern era, unless you count the presidential primary season.

    "Warrior," directed by Gavin O'Connor ("Miracle"), tells its tale of estranged brothers with abundant grit and sweat, if not much subtlety.

    Joel Edgerton plays Brendan, a high school physics teacher and former fighter climbing back into "the cage" to support his family; Tom Hardy is Tommy, his surly, psychically damaged younger brother; and Nick Nolte is their pop, Paddy, an ex-drunk who trains Tommy and aims, while he's at it, to reconcile with both sons. They're having none of it. They're having none of each other, either, the pair of them nursing grudges that date back to a family split and Tommy's destitute life with their late mother.

    All three actors do first-rate work looking alternately wounded and bitter. The Australian Edgerton and the English Hardy both put on passable American accents, and Hardy, for his part, has a hunched animalistic thuggishness that explodes from the screen. The movie hits its vicious cadence when the boys arrive in Atlantic City for a high-profile MMA tournament, where thick-muscled competitors beat each other's brains out for a $5 million purse.

    Moviegoers know what to expect from boxing, its visual and dramatic tropes; it has a duck-and-weave rhythm all its own. We're much less familiar with the crushing rhythms of MMA, a faster, crueler, more darting and startling form of combat: Fighters punch, kick, grapple, grind, clinch, flip, throw, smash, choke and more or less pound each other into submission. Fans often talk about safeguards (such as bout-ending "tap-outs"), but this is brutish, visceral stuff - a type of raw-meat violence that's undeniably cinematic but seems, to this worried parent, ill-fitted for PG-13.
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    And we're live

    Read WARRIOR: The Way of MMA without MMA by Dr. Craig Reid
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    great article.
    Originally posted by Bawang
    i had an old taichi lady talk smack behind my back. i mean comon man, come on. if it was 200 years ago,, mebbe i wouldve smacked her and took all her monehs.
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    So went and watched it and have to say it was a really good movie.

    First thing first. People are looking at it in the light of "oh MMA fighting, not my thing, therefore i'm not going to watch this." Really it's not about the fighting in the movie, it's more of the story, which is very good. The fighting and the world of MMA take a back seat really to the storyline here. Powerful performances by both main actors. Well done fight sequences, no over the top "never back down" bullsh!t. Like I said story takes lead not the fighting.

    Well developed duel story with interesting characters that battle a background of abuse as children with nolte's character putting in a fine performance.
    Originally posted by Bawang
    i had an old taichi lady talk smack behind my back. i mean comon man, come on. if it was 200 years ago,, mebbe i wouldve smacked her and took all her monehs.
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    Came in 3rd this weekend

    Here are the stats from BoxOfficeMojo.com
    1 Contagion WB $23,135,000 - 3,222 - $7,180 $23,135,000 $60 1

    2 The Help BV $8,691,000 -40.5% 2,935 +92 $2,961 $137,093,000 $25 5

    3 Warrior LGF $5,607,000 - 1,869 - $3,000 $5,607,000 $25 1
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    Just saw it on DVD

    Cliched but good. It was a very engrossing drama. You rooted for both characters. But it has some completely unbelievable moments. And as a non-fighter, the fights were pretty entertaining.

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    Greetings,

    What I liked about the movie: Nick Nolte.


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    Oscar nominated

    I still haven't see this. Now I must.
    Actor In a Supporting Role / Nick Nolte Warrior

    Nominated Role

    As Paddy Conlon, Nick Nolte plays a recovering alcoholic who agrees to train his resentful son for a mixed martial arts competition.

    Academy Awards History

    This is the third Academy Award nomination for Nick Nolte. He was previously nominated for:

    AFFLICTION (1998)
    Nominee, Actor in a Leading Role

    THE PRINCE OF TIDES (1991)
    Nominee, Actor in a Leading Role
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    I would have nominated Tom Hardy

    Nolte doesn't seem to venture too far from his comfort zone and this role is reminiscent of a lot Nolte roles. There was nothing he portrayed that made me think it was an Oscar worthy role.

    As for Hardy, he fully inhabits his character. If someone were to get the nod from this film it should have been him.

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    I finally saw this

    This should have been called "TapouT informercial." There was a TapouT logo in almost every shot. It was the only thing that felt real about it.

    I would say that this is the best MMA flick so far, which isn't really saying much as there hasn't been a really good MMA flick yet. It's totally cliched and preposterous. I don't know why I can accept cliches and preposterousness with Kung Fu films and not MMA films. Maybe it's because I watch MMA as a form of entertainment on its own. Is this more preposterous than a baseball/football/track film? Well, ya, sorta. Maybe it's because I know some MMA fighters and their lives are nothing like this. Then again, the same can be said for Kung Fu films. So I don't really know why I reject cliched preposterous MMA films.

    That being said, the performances are good (although cliched, especially the wife SPOILER not wanting to see her lover get the crap beaten out of him and then shows up to the fight anyway END SPOILER) and the action is engaging (although preposterous, especially the finale fight SPOILER having actually seen arms broken in an MMA fight firsthand and live, well, it looks nothing like that END SPOILER). But it's engaging enough to watch. There would be some totally preposterous or cliched scene, and then there would be a bloody fight or some decent acting, and I would be engaged again. Nolte rocked his role. Hardy was good too. I'm glad to see Bane unmasked. There was also a poster for Shamrock vs Gracie in the background, which was the first major MMA event that I ever attended, which was nostalgic for me personally.

    A high school teacher moonlighting as an MMA champ who brings his school together? It's going to make a great double feature with Here Comes the Boom
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    The Bollywood remake

    If there's Bollywood dance numbers in this, I'm all in. Plus I'll split this off into it's own independent thread. It will totally deserve that if is has those dance numbers.

    Sidharth Malhotra to train in mixed martial arts for 'Warrior' remake
    By PTI |Posted 13-Jun-2014

    Actor Sidharth Malhotra will be training in mixed martial arts for his next film, a remake of Hollywood movie 'Warrior'.


    Sidharth Malhotra

    The film will be produced by Karan Johar's and is tentatively named 'Warrior' and is apparently a remake of the 2011 Hollywood boxing drama. The story is about two brothers who face each other in a martial arts tournament.

    "The film I am doing next is very exciting. It has an interesting script and it has lot of scope for two characters. It is about mixed martial arts and fighting. I will have to start training for it soon," Sidharth told PTI.

    "I should start training (for mixed martial arts) in a month's time. We would be getting a trainer for it," he said. Sidharth is likely to be cast with actor Akshay Kumar in the film. "It is not official yet (about Akshay). But it will be interesting if he does the film," Sidharth said.

    The 29-year-old actor will also be seen in another remake of a French film 'Priceless'. It will be also produced by Karan Johar. On the film Sidharth says, "It is on hold as the script is not finalised yet. Director Tarun Manshukhani is working on it."
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