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    If so he's hardly Robinson Crusoe, is he?
    LOL so true but you knew Terence would take it the wrong way so I couldn't resist.
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    Ip Man and Leung Bik

    Folks ona couple of lists have gone round and round on this relationship and very little that is new can be added. I do not regard Wang Kiu as an authority on this issue.

    Ip Man acknowledged his debt to Leung Bik in conversations with quite a few people including
    his sons and several of his close students. It was customary to list your first teacher in your art in Ip man's time as your sifu-only one symbolic father in an art. You could learn from others but your first teacher remains honored as the sifu.

    I dont care to comment on the rest of the usual merry go round stuff.

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    LOL so true but you knew Terence would take it the wrong way so I couldn't resist.
    What was the RIGHT way to take it, then?

    I do not regard Wang Kiu as an authority on this issue.
    IIRC, Wang Kiu used to write tall stories about Yip Man and others for magazines etc. So that would be sound advice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by duende View Post
    Hell's yeah!! I raced Super Record all through the 80's. All I have left now is a Nuovo Record on an old Columbus SL frame.

    My favorite thing was the criteriums and sprinting for the primes! Racing was much different back then.
    I never did road racing only track races. I'll PM you so that we don't derail this thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by duende View Post
    FWIW.... I just saw Red Belt and watched all the out takes on DVD. What was very interesting to me, is that here you have a film made by a David Mamet a Jiu Jitsu Martial Artist, along with the cooperation and help of many famous MMA fighters. And one of the central themes of the movie is that sport fighting and real combat are not the same thing. The MMA's in the out takes had a real appreciation for this understanding.
    They also understand that to train for the street, you need to mimic the situation as closely as possible... unlike the people who are being brainwashed into believing junk like this is somehow training for the street
    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=-GTDGZU_UpU

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knifefighter View Post
    They also understand that to train for the street, you need to mimic the situation as closely as possible... unlike the people who are being brainwashed into believing junk like this is somehow training for the street
    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=-GTDGZU_UpU
    People who have fought against trained opponents bent on crushing you can discern BS. The people who never have can't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Redmond View Post
    People who have fought against trained opponents bent on crushing you can discern BS. The people who never have can't.
    Judging from the video he linked, he seems to think that most TMA are taught in a manner that produces results that someone's 5 or 6 year-old little sister could massacre at will. While I admit that there are schools "like that" "out there", I don't believe that the majority are "that bad".... even now.

    (ok, I haven't been looking around much for the last couple of decades, so I could be wrong about that...)

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