Windows Xp Back up from a Laptop question

[taai gihk yahn]

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LISTEN YOU STUPID MORON!!

Macs are DEFICIENT USELESS BOXES THAT ****DON'T**** RUN ****ANY**** OF MY SOFTWARE!!!!

They ***DON'T*** WORK AT ALLL, CAN'T RUN ANY PROGRAMS THAT MY BUSINESS **DEPENDS** ON, AND ARE OVER PRICED PAPERWEIGHTS!!!!

NO SHUT THE SAM HELL UP AND GO SPOUT YOUR NONSENSICAL RELIGIOUS PROPAGANDA SOMEWHERE ELSE!!!

I hope you can still get a refund for that Anger Management course...

but you are correct, the choices of software are limited - case in point, my wife needed very specific software in order to document her caseload for her medical boards coming up next year, and none of the 3 or 4 companies around make a version for Mac, so she had to go buy a PC laptop just for that (and has been having pretty much non-stop problems with installing and running it as well, no shock...)

[taai gihk yahn]

I know you probably don't believe this but MACs do occasionally have hardware failures. I know, it's a crazy thought...but backing up your MAC might not be a bad idea.

well of course they do - anything can fail, certainly one ought to back up regularly - but that's a given, AFAIC; relative to PC's, it's much less though, IMPE

ok, I'm not gonna hijack anymore

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

are you asking about a Mac? if so, I have to give it at minimum an 8/10 (for basic models - the high-end dual processor stuff is 10/10, IMPE), and I'll tell ya why:

• takes less than a minute from turning the machine on to being fully booted, all the time (except right after a software update download);
• unlike Windows, which is basically a software product on top of a buggy operating system (DOS), the Mac OS is what you run programs from, so one less piece of software as intermediary
• because it's so stable, you can leave it on for days on end in sleep mode and pick up right where you left off;
• if a program does freeze (very rare, happens mostly w/internet sites that hang while loading), the Linux-based system is set up in such a way that you just force quit that particular program and re-open it without having to reboot the system
• loading software is a cinch, compatibility issues are almost non-existent;
• no need for virus protection (they used to include it, they don't even bother now - you just download security updates every so often, but even the Norton guys a few years back were like "the best way to protect against a virus is to use a mac"); this is evidently because writing Mac viruses is more difficult, because the operating system is much more stable
• Keynote - blows away Power Point; I also prefer Safari to IE for browsing
• graphic functions are awesome and totally easy to use (e.g. - Parella switched over and has self-produced some very cool CLF / Lama dioramas he had printed out on posterboard and put up in the school); especially if you want to self-publish your book - that's what Mac's are designed for - graphics / publishing industry!
• more subjective, but I prefer the entire interface much more - it just "flows" a lot better than the Windows platform (remember, they basically ripped off Mac for the idea anyway)
• typically the monitor quality is better

I could go on, but to me, it's no contest; I know it's a bit more $$$ up front, but I promise you that that it is a worthy investment,

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Look, any good, well built PC today can run circles around a mac. There is NOTHING special about them.

In addition, Macs only have about 9% of the market share because THEY SUCK AND CAN'T HANDLE RUNNING COMMONLY USED SOFTWARE!!!

91% of the computer market are PC usres because they need to be able to run all thier industry specific software. Macs are SO CRAPPY they can't run much more than thier own programs, THAT NO ONE OUTSIDE OF THEM USES!!!

I don't care if it is a full on AI, if it is so substandard it can't run anything i need to run it's GARBAGE.

Now Shut the **** UP ALREADY!!!

[naja]

are you asking about a Mac? if so, I have to give it at minimum an 8/10 (for basic models - the high-end dual processor stuff is 10/10, IMPE), and I'll tell ya why: [*]takes less than a minute from turning the machine on to being fully booted, all the time (except right after a software update download);

Who cares, I leave my PC on all the time anyway.

[*]unlike Windows, which is basically a software product on top of a buggy operating system (DOS), the Mac OS is what you run programs from, so one less piece of software as intermediary

No, it isn't. MACs use a desktop manager just like any other OS. Including Pure UNIX systems.

[*] if a program does freeze (very rare, happens mostly w/internet sites that hang while loading), the Linux-based system is set up in such a way that you just force quit that particular program and re-open it without having to reboot the system

MAC osX is built on UNIX, not LINUX. There is a difference. And Windows can do this as well, it's called TASK MANAGER.

[*]no need for virus protection (they used to include it, they don't even bother now - you just download security updates every so often, but even the Norton guys a few years back were like "the best way to protect against a virus is to use a mac"); this is evidently because writing Mac viruses is more difficult, because the operating system is much more stable

HA! Boy are you in for a treat. And just a little FYI...the Miller virus hit Unix DNS servers in '92. First major internet virus. And it hit UNIX servers. You should read the link I posted in the other RD thread. Safari is a big hole for MACs, you would be better off using firefox.

Personally, I don't care what you use. I'm just so tired of you MAC people bashing another OS that you really don't seem to understand. I realize you probably don't work in the IT industry and you just use your laptop for recreational use, but come on, if you are going to try giving advice on this subject then get a little more informed.

I'm really not trying to sound like an @ss, I personally think more people in a recreational setting would enjoy MACs more than PCs, but the whole "MACs can't get viruses" promotes laziness and that is not a good thing. MACs are seeing m ore malware and attacks now adays because of this mentality. There have been MAC viruses written for simple point of principle attacks.

[naja]

well of course they do - anything can fail, certainly one ought to back up regularly - but that's a given, AFAIC; relative to PC's, it's much less though, IMPE

ok, I'm not gonna hijack anymore

???? You just shot your previous comment dead in the water with this one!!! He needs a backup of his system, you say "buy a mac", now you say, "sure MACs need backups too"...?????

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

If I knew how, i'd write a MAC virus just to watch it erase all thier hard drives over night.

That outta shut them up!!

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

???? You just shot your previous comment dead in the water with this one!!! He needs a backup of his system, you say "buy a mac", now you say, "sure MACs need backups too"...?????

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More proof that mac users are mindless, brainwashed, religious zealots!

Personally, I could care less what platform someone uses, but stop entering threads and trying to force your ideology on ME, especially when your system is so deficient that it won't even run the most basic program I have.

It might be different *IF* a Mac would actually be of benefit to me, but considering 91% of the market runs PC's, and Macs can't even run simple charting software, I think they should just shut the f'n hell up and stop trying to ram thier useless religion down my throat.

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

I think I may have found a way to do the back up where the info that goes on the floppy is stored in the primary back up file instead.

I am running a second back up to test if that works now.

[CLFLPstudent]

Here's me not saying anything, but i am snickering.....


-David

[IronWeasel]

Go buy you an external USB drive and a copy of Symantec Ghost.

What he said.


...we now return you to your regularly scheduled pron.

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

I already have the USB drive (500 gigs), In will look into Symantec Ghost.

Thanks!!

[JGTevo]

unlike Windows, which is basically a software product on top of a buggy operating system (DOS),

Thats a completely false statement.
Windows 98, 95, 3.1, yes.

Windows XP and Vista are built on the NT operating system, which isn't built on top of DOS.

because it's so stable, you can leave it on for days on end in sleep mode and pick up right where you left off;

Absolutely the same thing for Windows. the 9x series is a thing of the past. You won't find ANYONE in IT who doesn't respect Microsoft's move for building their OS's on NT.

if a program does freeze (very rare, happens mostly w/internet sites that hang while loading), the Linux-based system is set up in such a way that you just force quit that particular program and re-open it without having to reboot the system

Same thing for Windows.

loading software is a cinch, compatibility issues are almost non-existent;

Compatibility issues are non-existant on Windows, with Windows programs.
The only problems it has are with DOS-based programs.

no need for virus protection (they used to include it, they don't even bother now - you just download security updates every so often, but even the Norton guys a few years back were like "the best way to protect against a virus is to use a mac"); this is evidently because writing Mac viruses is more difficult, because the operating system is much more stable

Don't attribute this to MacOS being a superior operating system. Its because Virus/Spyware programmers want to get the most users infected. If MacOS held the market share Windows does, it would be the same story.

That being said, it does take an intelligent person to not get infected. Unfortunately MacOS users don't care much for intelligence, so their OS suits them perfectly.

Keynote - blows away Power Point; I also prefer Safari to IE for browsing

FireFox is a superior browser to both. And Safari is for Windows too.
Keynote is person-specific. Its like me saying that Windows is a superior Operating system because it runs far more games. But if you're not a gamer it doesn't matter, so its a moot point.

graphic functions are awesome and totally easy to use (e.g. - Parella switched over and has self-produced some very cool CLF / Lama dioramas he had printed out on posterboard and put up in the school); especially if you want to self-publish your book - that's what Mac's are designed for - graphics / publishing industry!

All of the top-notch graphic design programs are for both operating systems.
The PPC processor Macs used to use, were better for graphics/rendering/etc., now that they've switched to Intel procs, there is no performance noticiable difference.

more subjective, but I prefer the entire interface much more - it just "flows" a lot better than the Windows platform (remember, they basically ripped off Mac for the idea anyway)

"Ripped Off"? Please. They may have "Ripped off" the idea of a graphical OS. But to say they ripped off MacOS is to claim that Linux ripped off both of them. It's ridiculous. Theres a need for graphical operating systems. Theres not very many ways to do them.

typically the monitor quality is better

Ridiculous.

I could go on, but to me, it's no contest; I know it's a bit more $$$ up front, but I promise you that that it is a worthy investment

Its really not.

[JGTevo]

so she had to go buy a PC laptop just for that (and has been having pretty much non-stop problems with installing and running it as well, no shock...)

Absolutely. Just as any PC person would have issues getting used to MacOS or Linux... That being said - 99% of issues with Windows XP stem from bad software(from other companies) or (or in Vista's case)bad drivers(also from other companies). The OS itself is incredibly stable and usable.

[bakxierboxer]

BOTH MS and Apple ripped off the GUI from Xerox PARC and their STAR workstations.
(goes 'WAY back into the 70s)

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

Well, it appears this thread was pointless. The MS back up utility worked just fine now that I figured out which option had to be used.

This was a case of operator error.

Although I am sure that *IF* I had a Mac, there would have been no such thing as operator error because macs were given to us from on high by the baby Jebus himself, and The baby jebus makes no mistakes!!