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    This is our fault

    http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/americ...ral/index.html

    Anyone who buys and uses illegal narcotics is funding the destruction of our Southern neighbor.

    Even if 'Pot' was legalized, there is no way one can argue legalization for other dangerous narcotics.

    American narcissism is destroying Mexico.

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    Even if 'Pot' was legalized, there is no way one can argue legalization for other dangerous narcotics.

    if we legalise drugs

    we control the potency

    we make a fortune

    save a fortune on policing it and the crime that results from it

    and the workers who make the stuff dont have to live in fear of armed reprisal if they dont do well in fact the worers will prosper from legalisation

    you might argue hey these drugs are dangerous
    well SO WHAT its peoples choice to or not to do it, its THEIR lives and alcohol kills more peopel a year anyway

    legalizing opium would cut groups like al quaeda and the talibans funding right from under them and thus their ability to make war

    and the southern aemrcian continent would prosper free from corruption

    as long as your choice doesnt affect other people directly the government should have no say in what you do or dont do

    the only reason alot of countrys dont want legalisation is because they cant monopolise it quickly if it was
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    everything should be legal so that it can be taxed and controlled and taken out of the hands of criminals.

    not everyone smokes cigarettes, and not everyone drinks so the arguments that it would decay society fall flat on it's face. many if not most people can't be bothered with recreational drug use of any kind.

    i have heard more than one LEO and even some of considerable rank advocate this position.

    i think it's not all legal because someone...who is getting very rich off of it, is the same someone who lobbies for drugs to remain illegal.

    legislating out of fear of the unknown is rank stupidity.
    just legalize it all.

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    I read somewhere that the fiercest lobbyists against legalization came from the alcohol and tobacco companies, for fear of competition over customers. Don't have any idea if that's actually accurate, and it was a long time ago I read this in any case, just throwing it out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend Tap View Post
    I read somewhere that the fiercest lobbyists against legalization came from the alcohol and tobacco companies, for fear of competition over customers. Don't have any idea if that's actually accurate, and it was a long time ago I read this in any case, just throwing it out there.
    i wouldnt doubt that for a second.
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    IF you want to know about weed and the criminalization of it. " The Emperor wears no clothes" is the book you want to read


    Humboldt county just get your ganj from there. Things criss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David Jamieson View Post
    everything should be legal so that it can be taxed and controlled and taken out of the hands of criminals.

    not everyone smokes cigarettes, and not everyone drinks so the arguments that it would decay society fall flat on it's face. many if not most people can't be bothered with recreational drug use of any kind.

    i have heard more than one LEO and even some of considerable rank advocate this position.

    i think it's not all legal because someone...who is getting very rich off of it, is the same someone who lobbies for drugs to remain illegal.

    legislating out of fear of the unknown is rank stupidity.
    just legalize it all.

    /rant

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    Quote Originally Posted by sanjuro_ronin View Post
    Where would you draw the line?
    Why should there be a line? This is America, where freedom of choice is supposed to be a God-given right.

    If you want to get addicted to cigarettes, that's your choice.
    If you want to get addicted to alcohol, that's your choice.
    If you want to get addicted to heroin, that's your choice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MasterKiller View Post
    Why should there be a line? This is America, where freedom of choice is supposed to be a God-given right.

    If you want to get addicted to cigarettes, that's your choice.
    If you want to get addicted to alcohol, that's your choice.
    If you want to get addicted to heroin, that's your choice.
    tricky slope dude, very tricky.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sanjuro_ronin View Post
    tricky slope dude, very tricky.
    No trickier than alcohol or cigarettes. Make the mandatory age for use 21, then tax the industry to generate income for public education against the use of those products.

    It's not the governments job to tell me what I can do to my body. They can warn me of the consequences, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MasterKiller View Post
    No trickier than alcohol or cigarettes. Make the mandatory age for use 21, then tax the industry to generate income for public education against the use of those products.

    It's not the governments job to tell me what I can do to my body.
    Its not their job to take care of your re-hab either, correct?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sanjuro_ronin View Post
    Its not their job to take care of your re-hab either, correct?
    Tax money from the industry can provide for re-hab and medical expenses, just like tabacco. The government already spends a sh1tload on rehabbing addicts anyway. Why not tax the industry to recoup your costs?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MasterKiller View Post
    Tax money from the industry can provide for re-hab and medical expenses, just like tabacco.
    So it IS the governments responsibility?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sanjuro_ronin View Post
    So it IS the governments responsibility?
    No more so than it already it. Taxes can help pay for private rehab, but rehab should not be a public responsibility, which it currently is for most cases.

    People are going to get high and get addicted, this is a fact right now. Let the drug makers pay for it out of their profits instead of me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MasterKiller View Post
    No more so than it already it. Taxes can help pay for private rehab, but rehab should not be a public responsibility, which it currently is for most cases.

    People are going to get high and get addicted, this is a fact right now. Let the drug makers pay for it out of their profits instead of me.
    No issues with that at all.
    And you are quite correct, people are already getting addicted, better to make it a controlled substance and ENFORCE it as such.
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