This is our fault

[David Jamieson]

In a true democratic society. the people are the government and the government acts on the will of the people.

we don't elect nannies, we elect representatives to hold up and support our views and our will as a people.

there is no need to draw a line as stated. you can still have rule of law to enforce the will of the people. drunk driving is a criminal code offense for instance, why wouldn't any other instance of where harm is brought to someone else through criminal intent go unpunished?

the war on drugs is a huge waste of money. If we control the flow, tax the crap out of it there will be benefits.

people with addictive personalities can be included in the help available when they get to a point hey need to deal with it. there's no difference in my eyes between an alcoholic and a heroin addict except that the former is paying, through taxes for his hospital care and the latter is not because there is no system in place for that to occur.

make the problem pay for the solution. It's very freeing and promotes a more intelligent society.

[Hardwork108]

http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/americ...ral/index.html

Anyone who buys and uses illegal narcotics is funding the destruction of our Southern neighbor.

Even if 'Pot' was legalized, there is no way one can argue legalization for other dangerous narcotics.

American narcissism is destroying Mexico.

****es me off, it does...

Not just Mexico but also this effects Colombia and a few other South American countries.

[1bad65]

I read somewhere that the fiercest lobbyists against legalization came from the alcohol and tobacco companies, for fear of competition over customers. Don't have any idea if that's actually accurate, and it was a long time ago I read this in any case, just throwing it out there.

The Governement also profits from the war on drugs. They do it through seizure laws.

I'm all for legalizing it. We tried Prohibition once, people still drank alcohol and people like Al Capone got rich off it. It's no different now, people still get high, and drug lords are making tons of money off it.

[Reverend Tap]

The Governement also profits from the war on drugs. They do it through seizure laws.

I'm all for legalizing it. We tried Prohibition once, people still drank alcohol and people like Al Capone got rich off it. It's no different now, people still get high, and drug lords are making tons of money off it.

For once, we agree 100%.

[Hardwork108]

What worries me about legalization of drugs is the fact that we are going to end up legally stoned people side by side with legally drunk people, not to mention the silently stoned who are on certain prescription drugs as well.

That scenario does not sound like a healthy society. Or am I too old fashioned?

[Reverend Tap]

What worries me about legalization of drugs is the fact that we are going to end up legally stoned people side by side with legally drunk people, not to mention the silently stoned who are on certain prescription drugs as well.

That scenario does not sound like a healthy society. Or am I too old fashioned?

With the exception of the legality of being stoned, that's no different from what we have now.

[Hardwork108]

With the exception of the legality of being stoned, that's no different from what we have now.

I see your point but wouldn´t making narcotics legal encourage more consumption?

[Reverend Tap]

I see your point but wouldn´t making narcotics legal encourage more consumption?

I can't cite statistics because it's been a friggin' long time since I read up on it, but from what I've read countries that legalize actually tend to see something of a drop in overall usage.

[taai gihk yahn]

the silently stoned who are on certain prescription drugs as well.

on this you make a good point, one that I have noticed for years - specifically, the massive preponderance of anti-depressants - I think that something like 30-50% of the population is on these things? add in the anti-anxiety meds and I can't imagine what the numbers are; while these make people more "functional", it's still unsettling, because it is so common yet goes largely unnoticed;

personally, I am in favor of legalization, but what concerns me is how to prevent people in significantly altered states of consciousness from harming other people, and probably there should be a minimum age

[David Jamieson]

on this you make a good point, one that I have noticed for years - specifically, the massive preponderance of anti-depressants - I think that something like 30-50% of the population is on these things? add in the anti-anxiety meds and I can't imagine what the numbers are; while these make people more "functional", it's still unsettling, because it is so common yet goes largely unnoticed;

personally, I am in favor of legalization, but what concerns me is how to prevent people in significantly altered states of consciousness from harming other people, and probably there should be a minimum age

I think the stat is 40% of the USA is on some form of prescribed drug care.

In the case of the huge amount of anti-depressants being out there, that is more indicative of how sick our social model is.

Krishnamurti once said "To say that one is well adjusted to this society that is so profoundly ill, is not saying much at all"(sic).

With this continued recession and the inevitable depression that will follow, we will see even more people reduced in their own minds and resorting to drug use, suicide, etc. Anything to escape the reality that we have all created for ourselves by, first and foremost, not taking responsibility for the lives we lead.

We are collectively too distracted! Time to wake up, chop wood and carry water!

[taai gihk yahn]

Krishnamurti once said "To say that one is well adjusted to this society that is so profoundly ill, is not saying much at all"(sic).

K. is da man; chapter 1 of "The First & Last Freedom" pretty much sums it up...

[TenTigers]

I have a student who is a pharmacist in Target. She says the majority (around 90 %) of her patients are in for pain meds, anti-depressants/mood elevators, and anti psychotic drugs. Pretty scary, huh?

[SimonM]

It's almost ironic...

I am a vocal advocate for wide-spread legalization. And yet I've only used 3 advil in the last year and that was when I had a simultaneous ear ache and tooth ache on the same side of my head.

We live in an over-medicated society.

[sanjuro_ronin]

I have a student who is a pharmacist in Target. She says the majority (around 90 %) of her patients are in for pain meds, anti-depressants/mood elevators, and anti psychotic drugs. Pretty scary, huh?

Nah, pretty typical, according to my doctor I am the biggest freak he has ever had, in the years he has been my doctor he has never prescribed anything to me other than the cure for Ulcers when it was found that it was a bacteria that causes it.
Never even had a prescription for tylenol 3, LOL !
No pain killers, no medication of any kind.
Of course, I am immortal, so...

[David Jamieson]

Nah, pretty typical, according to my doctor I am the biggest freak he has ever had, in the years he has been my doctor he has never prescribed anything to me other than the cure for Ulcers when it was found that it was a bacteria that causes it.
Never even had a prescription for tylenol 3, LOL !
No pain killers, no medication of any kind.
Of course, I am immortal, so...

there are a lot of blubbering puzzies out there though who run for medication every time they stub their toes. Manginas is what they are.

the "tough guy" is harder and harder to find.

I too shun medication for aches and pains. It's not like the aches and pains are gonna go away. In fact, they get compiled with age!

I feel the best after rigorous exercise.