Poll: For those not believing in God

[David Jamieson]

For 23 p, what is the fundamental diference between Presbyterians and Episcopalians?

they are both protestant churches.

But when you look for the answer, you'll find a couple of more questions and you will come to realize that church is more about politics than it is about church.

[Merryprankster]

Reverend, I think that whether or not atheism constitutes a system of belief depends entirely on how you come to it.

If you are an atheist because the existence of God cannot be proven from observable, repeatable experiments, then I don't think that makes you much more than an empiricist. It could be possible to "believe" (I use the word colloquially here) in only things that are demonstrably factual (vice true).

Note that being an empiricist in this sense is fraught with its own problems....nor does being one imply a greater or lesser sense of reality or reason than somebody with a different viewpoint.

Folks are certainly free to disagree with my comments above. Such is the nature of argumentation.

However, the most accurate explanation of faith and belief has always seemed to me to be Kierkegaard's; belief is something you maintain in SPITE OF THE ABSENCE OF EVIDENCE, or EVIDENCE AGAINST IT.

I realize this all butts up against the absence of evidence/evidence of absence argument, but, ultimately, really, who cares?

Only apologists and atheists ;-)

[Merryprankster]

For 23 p, what is the fundamental diference between Presbyterians and Episcopalians?

they are both protestant churches.

But when you look for the answer, you'll find a couple of more questions and you will come to realize that church is more about politics than it is about church.

This; BTW, I would wager that God doesn't exist. If he doesn't, I've lost nothing. If he does, he's not going allow the universe to end because I'm being a putz.

Really, this is just a negative reformulation of Pascal's Wager. Kind of boring. Oh, and ultimately a really crappy, 'missing the point' sort of reason to believe in God.

[AJM]

I'm trying to justify in my mind why this thread is on a kung fu bulletin board and I'm completely striking out.

[Kpower]

Any god desiring worship is not worthy of worship.

[David Jamieson]

This; BTW, I would wager that God doesn't exist. If he doesn't, I've lost nothing. If he does, he's not going allow the universe to end because I'm being a putz.

Really, this is just a negative reformulation of Pascal's Wager. Kind of boring. Oh, and ultimately a really crappy, 'missing the point' sort of reason to believe in God.

Not sure what this comment means or how it relates to my post.

[kfson]

I saw a funny motivational poster the other day with a picture of the Norse God Thor. The caption read:

"My god has a hammer. Your god was nailed to a cross. Any questions?"

I know that organization, it's called the Nietzcheism.

[David Jamieson]

Graffiti on a bathroom wall:

God is Dead ~ Nietzche

beneath it:

Nietzche is Dead ~ God

[sanjuro_ronin]

graffiti on a bathroom wall:

god is dead ~ nietzche

beneath it:

nietzche is dead ~ god

bbbwwaaahhhhh !!!!!!