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    Cain Velasquez

    vs. Jeremiah Constant

    vs. Jake O'Brien

    It may seem absurd to suggest that a guy coming off knee surgery, and with only four professional fights, is all but a lock to be competing for the Ultimate Fighting Championship heavyweight title before the end of the year.

    But then, Brock Lesnar, the UFC champion, is a guy who won the title in his fourth professional fight, so it’s hardly out of the question that Cain Velasquez could have the belt around his waist before 2010 dawns.

    “No doubt about it,” UFC president Dana White says assuredly of the likelihood of Velasquez fighting for the title sometime this year.

    Velasquez is only 26 and has been a professional for a bit more than two years, but he’s already learned there are no guarantees in this business. And so while so many around him are giddy about his prospects, and White discusses a title shot as if it’s a fait accompli, Velasquez is simply concerned with finding a way to defeat Denis Stojnic when they meet at Ultimate Fight Night Saturday at the Sun Dome in Tampa, Fla., in a bout televised on Spike TV.

    Velasquez is an overwhelming favorite to win, but he wants no part of that kind of talk. He’s prepared for Stojnic, he says, as if it were the most important fight of his life.

    That’s a good move on his part, because it is. While Stojnic may be no Lesnar, a young and inexperienced fighter can’t afford a slipup and still land a title shot. With as many qualified candidates who are out there, even a prospect as highly touted as Velasquez must continue to win impressively to remain in the mix.

    And so Velasquez has trained feverishly to prepare for Stojnic, a kickboxer with a 5-1 record who will be making his UFC debut.

    “There are no sure things in this sport,” Velasquez said. “Denis is a super aggressive guy. He’s really strong and he likes to come forward. It’s a tough fight.”

    A two-time All-American wrestler at Arizona State, Velasquez hasn’t been in anything remotely resembling a tough fight since he turned pro. He’s ended each of his four fights in the first round, with only one going past the halfway mark of the round.

    He’s like the rookie outfielder that a team is so optimistic about that it puts him in the middle of the lineup and expects him to be one of the key players from Day One. Velasquez’s approach is more like he’s battling for the 25th spot on the roster.

    “What other people say, I filter out,” Velasquez said. “I never listen to the hype. I have a long way to go. I need to get better in every area. Of course, you would rather people think highly of you than not, but in the end, that doesn’t really matter. What matters is how I perform and how much I learn.”

    White is almost giddy about his new crop of heavyweights. In the last year, he’s added Lesnar, Velasquez, Shane Carwin and Junior dos Santos to a group that includes Randy Couture, Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira, Frank Mir and Gabriel Gonzaga.

    The promoter unabashedly says it’s the best group of heavyweights the company has had since he and partners Frank and Lorenzo Fertitta bought it eight years ago.

    “I’ve never been happier with our heavyweights in the history of the company,” White said. “We have a lot of great fighters and we have guys like Cain who are getting better every day.

    “He’s one of the guys we think is going to be great and I definitely see him and Brock fighting at some point. That’s one of those fights that we haven’t even made and when you think about it, you can’t wait to see it.”

    Velasquez lost a lot of momentum when he tore the meniscus in his left knee after his win over Jake O’Brien in July and required surgery. He said he doesn’t expect problems from his knee and insists he’ll be able to compete full out with no mental reservations.

    “It feels like ages since I’ve had to worry about my knee,” he said.

    If the knee holds up and he gets past Stojnic on Saturday, much bigger things are ahead. And he understands that because they have similar backgrounds, there are going to be plenty of comparisons between Lesnar and himself.

    He’s not about to make one, though.

    “It would be an honor to fight a guy like that, but I have a lot I need to do before I really even think about it more than a minute,” he said. “I’m trying to improve in every area. It’s not like I’m a finished product, by any means. I have a lot of questions to answer. I hope I have a good chin, but I haven’t been hit in a fight and I don’t know for sure. So I have a lot to do.

    “The bottom line is, I can’t allow that kind of stuff to distract me or to get in the way of me doing what I have to do. When that time comes, if it comes, great. All I’m concerned about right now is the fight I have in front of me. I’ll let myself worry about that other stuff at the appropriate time.”
    What are everyone's thoughts on this guy? He is currently 4-0, never being past the 4:00 minute mark in round 1. All wins by TKO.
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    Cain Velasquez

    Cain Velasquez who defeated Nogueira with punching wrestled here at Arizona State University. He has always been willing to learn and his training ethic is as formidable as they come.His willingness to learn and his work ethic should carry him far.

    joy chaudhuri

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    Uh ok...are you his manager?
    "if its ok for shaolin wuseng to break his vow then its ok for me to sneak behind your house at 3 in the morning and bang your dog if buddha is in your heart then its ok"-Bawang

    "I get what you have said in the past, but we are not intuitive fighters. As instinctive fighters, we can chuck spears and claw and bite. We are not instinctively god at punching or kicking."-Drake

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hebrew Hammer View Post
    Uh ok...are you his manager?
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    Nope


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    Cain was awesome! His hand speed was second to none in the heavyweights! Very impressive fight!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hebrew Hammer View Post
    Uh ok...are you his manager?
    Just local pride I guess. Nothing wrong with that. Joy is an Emeritus Professor at Arizona State University.

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    Thx cft

    Quote Originally Posted by CFT View Post
    Just local pride I guess. Nothing wrong with that. Joy is an Emeritus Professor at Arizona State University.
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    One of my wing chun gung fu students- an all American wrestler was on the same team as Cain. Cain was the hardest worker on the team- wrestling continuously with opponent after opponent on the mat.
    In preparation for mma he got other coaches for understanding a well rounded approach to the cage.My student was is also a hard worker but Cain was tops.Grapplers can be sometimes slow in developing striking skills...not the case with Cain.

    BTW in a previous incarnation in a stint as a an academic administrator- most athletes were in my college- liberal arts and sciences-the biggest college in the largest U in the USA. Go Sun Devils!Douglas who was at Oklahoma State coached here before moving to Iowa State to coach wrestling. Wrestling does not draw as much of a paying audience in collegiate level compared to football and basketball and suffers budget cuts in our struggling economy. Wrestling is better supported at Oklahoma State and Oklahoma U (other past roots) and Iowa and Lehigh among other places. Oklahoma State historically filled every weight class position in matches.

    joy chaudhuri

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    Nothing wrong with good ole fashioned pride...he put on a good show vs Nog, I'm still trying to figure out how he can defeat the champ though? Thats a tall order if he comes back healthy.
    "if its ok for shaolin wuseng to break his vow then its ok for me to sneak behind your house at 3 in the morning and bang your dog if buddha is in your heart then its ok"-Bawang

    "I get what you have said in the past, but we are not intuitive fighters. As instinctive fighters, we can chuck spears and claw and bite. We are not instinctively god at punching or kicking."-Drake

    "Princess? LMAO hammer you are such a pr^t"-Frost

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    Quote Originally Posted by CFT View Post
    Just local pride I guess. Nothing wrong with that. Joy is an Emeritus Professor at Arizona State University.
    Hey I didn't know you (Joy) were a [retired] college professor! Thanks be to you then. IMO its one of the most important professions in our country.

    I wish all teachers would get paid better...its a shame that guys who can throw a ball in a basket get paid millions in comparison to someone who actually improves the quality of life for our society.
    "I don't know if anyone is known with the art of "sitting on your couch" here, but in my eyes it is also to be a martial art.

    It is the art of avoiding dangerous situations. It helps you to avoid a dangerous situation by not actually being there. So lets say there is a dangerous situation going on somewhere other than your couch. You are safely seated on your couch so you have in a nutshell "difused" the situation."

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    Hi vankuen

    I have worn several hats- but I treasure my martial art hat.My other life is not really relevant in martial arts forums. Thanks though,
    joy chaudhuri

    PS- I dont know whether Lessner and Cain will ever be matched. Overcoming the weight disadvantage will be a real challenge for Cain. He cannot make a mistake.Cain is technically very good - an incredibly hard and dedicated athlete.Time is on his side...though comparatively speaking weight isn't. Remains to be seen whether the bigger guy will recover from his health setback.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vajramusti View Post
    Cain Velasquez who defeated Nogueira with punching wrestled here at Arizona State University. He has always been willing to learn and his training ethic is as formidable as they come.His willingness to learn and his work ethic should carry him far.

    joy chaudhuri
    joy,

    You know Ryan Bader is local there too and came out of ASU's wrestling program. he still trains at ACS there in Tempe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wayfaring View Post
    joy,

    You know Ryan Bader is local there too and came out of ASU's wrestling program. he still trains at ACS there in Tempe.
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    There are several from that team that headed for mma training[some to California.

    joy chaudhuri

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    Cain

    Too bad Cain hasa major rotator cuff injury..after multiple opinions- he is headed for surgery and months of therapy and recovery. But at Arizona State U and continuing onwards- he was/is super fit and dedicated and should recover well. Too bad he is out for a while.

    joy chaudhuri

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    Still illegal, but if that 'victim' is guilty...

    Judge denies bail to UFC champion charged in shooting
    By Associated Press
    March 8, 2022 12:37am Updated


    Cain Velasquez listens during a hearing at the Santa Clara County Hall of Justice. A judge had denied bail to former UFC heavyweight champion Velasquez, who was charged with attempted murder after authorities said he fired at a pickup truck carrying a man accused of sexually abusing a 4-year-old family member.
    Aric Crabb

    SAN JOSE, Calif. — A judge in California denied bail Monday to former two-time UFC heavyweight champion Cain Velasquez, who faces attempted murder and multiple gun assault charges after authorities said he fired at a pickup truck carrying a man accused of sexually abusing a 4-year-old family member.

    Velasquez was arrested in San Jose last week after he chased a pickup carrying the man through busy streets in three Silicon Valley cities, ramming the vehicle with his own pickup truck during an 11-mile (18-kilometer) high-speed chase, prosecutors said.

    Velasquez, 39, fired a .40-caliber pistol at the vehicle several times, wounding the man’s stepfather, who was driving, in his arm and torso, prosecutors said.

    Celebrity attorney Mark Geragos, who is representing Velasquez, told reporters outside the court that he plans on vindicating his client and getting him back with his family, the Mercury News reported.

    Velasquez transitioned to pro-wrestling after retiring from his MMA career in 2019. A former two-time UFC heavyweight champion, he earned title belts in 2010 and 2012.


    Supporters of Cain Velasquez gather outside the Santa Clara County Hall of Justice.
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    Attorney Mark Geragos, left, representing Cain Velasquez, speaks to the media in front of the Santa Clara County Hall of Justice.
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    Cain allowed to travel

    Judge allows Cain Velasquez to travel to wrestling match
    by: Amy Larson

    Posted: Nov 22, 2022 / 06:37 PM PST
    Updated: Nov 23, 2022 / 09:42 AM PST



    SAN JOSE, Calif. (KRON) — Former UFC heavyweight champion Cain Velasquez will be returning to the wrestling ring thanks to a Santa Clara County Superior Court judge who granted his request to travel outside of California.

    On Tuesday, Judge Arthur Bocanegra granted Velasquez’s request for permission to travel to Arizona over the objections of prosecutors.

    That means the fighter can now compete in a pro wrestling match, Lucha Libre AAA Worldwide, even though he is facing an attempted murder charge.


    Cain Velasquez, right, appears in court on Nov. 21, 2022, in San Jose. Velasquez is charged with shooting at an accused child molester. (Dai Sugano /Bay Area News Group / Pool)

    The MMA star was recently released from jail after serving months behind bars without bail. Judge Bocanegra granted a $1 million bail despite prosecutors’ assertions that Velasquez is a threat to public safety.

    Prosecutors charged the MMA star with attempted murder after he attempted to kill an accused child molester in Morgan Hill, according to the District Attorney’s Office.

    Velasquez’s defense attorney said Harry Goularte is a predatory pedophile who molested Velasquez’s 4-year-old son at a daycare operated by Goularte’s mother. Goularte was arrested by San Martin police and charged with child molestation.

    San Jose police said Velasquez chased Goularte’s pickup truck for 10 miles, at times leaning out the window to open fire. The high-speed chase ended after Goularte’s stepfather was shot in the arm and Velasquez surrendered to police on February 28.

    Velasquez celebrated Tuesday’s legal victory on Twitter. He tweeted in Spanish, “I am very happy to return to @luchalibreaaa. See you in Tempe, Arizona this December 3, Mullett Arena.”
    I hope he does well.
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