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    Quote Originally Posted by MasterKiller View Post
    That's what Mir said.
    So you are saying that Mir is right? And wrong? They are tied 1-1.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Three Harmonies View Post
    Are you referring to the trailer trash queen Lesnar? Cain will own him IMO. Cain's hands were amazingly fast!
    JAB
    I was indeed referring to said trailer trash, he is BIG and FAST...not saying Cain can't win...thats the thing about MMA, your strength can be countered with other techniques...IMO Cain would have to attack one of Lesners legs to slow him down then he could pummel him from the outside. Mir starting adding 15-20 lbs of bulk just to deal with Lesner!

    And speaking of Mir...he just said he would break Lesner's neck in the ring...naughty naughty...I'd like to see Mir vs Cain too.
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    Lesnar is really not very talented. Big. Sure. Fast...not really, I would say explosive. Cain is an ex collegiate wrestler so I think he can defend against the takedown as well as anyone.

    As for Mir... he made a critical mistake... why go to 1/2 guard in MMA???? I love 1/2 guard, but every time I pull it in Vale Tudo I eat leather! And I am no pro! Mir should have known better!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Three Harmonies View Post
    Lesnar is really not very talented. Big. Sure. Fast...not really, I would say explosive. Cain is an ex collegiate wrestler so I think he can defend against the takedown as well as anyone.

    As for Mir... he made a critical mistake... why go to 1/2 guard in MMA???? I love 1/2 guard, but every time I pull it in Vale Tudo I eat leather! And I am no pro! Mir should have known better!

    JAB
    i think when it comes to collegiate wrestling cain is not in lesnars league

    Mir is not a great MMA fighter really and you are right going to half guard is silly in MMA

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    Quote Originally Posted by MasterKiller View Post
    Lesner has 40 pounds on Cain, after his cut. That size differential will be difficult to overcome.
    I actually like Shane Carwin's chances better than Cain's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vajramusti View Post
    Cain Velasquez who defeated Nogueira with punching wrestled here at Arizona State University. He has always been willing to learn and his training ethic is as formidable as they come.His willingness to learn and his work ethic should carry him far.

    joy chaudhuri
    joy,

    You know Ryan Bader is local there too and came out of ASU's wrestling program. he still trains at ACS there in Tempe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Three Harmonies View Post
    Lesnar is really not very talented. Big. Sure. Fast...not really, I would say explosive. Cain is an ex collegiate wrestler so I think he can defend against the takedown as well as anyone.

    As for Mir... he made a critical mistake... why go to 1/2 guard in MMA???? I love 1/2 guard, but every time I pull it in Vale Tudo I eat leather! And I am no pro! Mir should have known better!

    JAB
    Not talented? Listen, I personally hate Lesnar and all he stands for. But lets be realistic. The guy was the 2000 NCAA Heavyweight champion and his record stood at 106 - 5 for his college career. If that is not talented, I really suck.
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    I thought we were addressing Lesnar's MMA career (or lack there of)? Yes he was a solid wrestler, but it takes more than just wrestling to make an MMA fighter.
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    Velasquez would smash Lesnar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Three Harmonies View Post
    Lesnar is really not very talented.
    JAB
    You're going to stick to that story? He's defeated two former Heavy Weight Champs soundly, he was a collegiate champ, and he was even offered a chance to try out for a pro football team and he's not talented? You must have lofty standards indeed, my friend.

    Don't mistake me here, I'm not on his jock, I just respect him...I think he can be defeated, as any man can, but to say he's not a very talented athlete or fighter would be an injustice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Three Harmonies View Post
    I thought we were addressing Lesnar's MMA career (or lack there of)? Yes he was a solid wrestler, but it takes more than just wrestling to make an MMA fighter.
    Cains had what 5 or 6 fights in the UFC, hardly a massive fight record either, brocks faught two ex champs and beaten them, i think they are pretty even on the MMA record and lesnar is the better grappler, not to mention the much bigger man

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frost View Post
    Cains had what 5 or 6 fights in the UFC, hardly a massive fight record either, brocks faught two ex champs and beaten them, i think they are pretty even on the MMA record and lesnar is the better grappler, not to mention the much bigger man
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    Again- I understand the big weight difference. What will happen, will happen.
    But Cain's learning curve is sharply up ward - he is in top shape.
    Lesnar is more at a standstill and his unfortunate health related training interruption could be factors too.


    Go Sun Devil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wayfaring View Post
    joy,

    You know Ryan Bader is local there too and came out of ASU's wrestling program. he still trains at ACS there in Tempe.
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    There are several from that team that headed for mma training[some to California.

    joy chaudhuri

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vajramusti View Post
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    Again- I understand the big weight difference. What will happen, will happen.
    But Cain's learning curve is sharply up ward - he is in top shape.
    Lesnar is more at a standstill and his unfortunate health related training interruption could be factors too.


    Go Sun Devil.

    joy chaudhuri
    lensar showed great improvements in his ground game and standup between the two Mir fights, but i agree the health issues might harm him, personally i would like to see the heavyweight division smaller in size and a super heavyweight division over 250 brought in

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    even with the weight difference it will come down to who is stronger

    if cain is stronger than brock then obviously brock is in trouble despite having pounds on him

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