I think forms suck

[MasterKiller]

I think that you spend too much time thinking about fighting.

I didn't introduce 'fighing' into the argument. I merely stated that forms training was less efficient than other methods IF you were trying to prepare for a fight.

But, your evasiveness answers my question, regardless.

[wetwonder]

I'm guessing that you've never taken the first line of defense in a threatening situation - to walk away.

[wetwonder]

I didn't introduce 'fighing' into the argument. I merely stated that forms training was less efficient than other methods IF you were trying to prepare for a fight.

But, your evasiveness answers my question, regardless.

Well, I apologize then. You're right, we were talking about fitness. Apologies.

[MasterKiller]

I'm guessing that you've never taken the first line of defense in a threatening situation - to walk away.

What does that have to do with either A) forms B) cardio or C) the price of tea in China?

[wetwonder]

What does that have to do with either A) forms B) cardio or C) the price of tea in China?

I was replying to Mr. Ronin.

[sanjuro_ronin]

I was replying to Mr. Ronin.

Replying to what with what ?

[Exadon]

I was replying to Mr. Ronin.

Replying to what with what ?

I think the bellow is what he was talking about

Your answer:

Yeah MK, what are you thinking ???
Martial arts and fighting, that's just whack !!

His reply to you:

I'm guessing that you've never taken the first line of defense in a threatening situation - to walk away.

Back to Forms VRS non Forms. I enjoy doing forms, If you add it to the hardcore (make me puke) workout than I guess it can't be a bad thing to do it as well right?

[MasterKiller]

Back to Forms VRS non Forms. I enjoy doing forms, If you add it to the hardcore (make me puke) workout than I guess it can't be a bad thing to do it as well right?

I'm not saying you have to train to puke. Right now, my club is training for a submission tournament, followed by 3 guys fighting in cage matches in a few weeks. So, right now we are training to puke, but that's a different story.

If cardio is a concern, you should add more efficient training methods to your forms work. Forms are only part of a traditional training regime...Weights (like stone locks), forms, cardio, and stretching all make for a well-rounded total-body workout.

[sanjuro_ronin]

I'm not saying you have to train to puke. Right now, my club is training for a submission tournament, followed by 3 guys fighting in cage matches in a few weeks. So, right now we are training to puke, but that's a different story.

If cardio is a concern, you should add more efficient training methods to your forms work.

Its a paced cycle in which you guys AMP up the training coming into the matches, correct?

[MasterKiller]

Its a paced cycle in which you guys AMP up the training coming into the matches, correct?

Yes, the pacing increases before competitions. We have a tournament next week in Norman, OK, so we're at a high level right now. We will slow down in March, then gradually amp it back up starting in April to get them ready to fight in May.

Now, the tabata set is done after every class, regardless. But we spend a lot more class time drilling and doing cooperative-resistance work, and spar/roll in shorter rounds or less rounds, than we do when preparing for competition.

[Lucas]

im not arguing one way or the other.

i do practice 2 forms consistently, i wont go into the reasons why i maintain these 2 sequences, because a lot of you should already know.

but for the record:

I CAN MAKE MYSELF PUKE ANY **** TIME I FEEL LIKE IT !!!

[Exadon]

I'm not saying you have to train to puke. Right now, my club is training for a submission tournament, followed by 3 guys fighting in cage matches in a few weeks. So, right now we are training to puke, but that's a different story.

If cardio is a concern, you should add more efficient training methods to your forms work. Forms are only part of a traditional training regime...Weights (like stone locks), forms, cardio, and stretching all make for a well-rounded total-body workout.

yeah I just added the puke part as a joke.

[Violent Designs]

I wonder why so many CMA guys are interested in MMA-format competitions?

I would think K-1, Thai Boxing, and of course Sanda makes more sense as CMA is predominately striking . . .

[Lucas]

a lot of cma practitioners are wanting to be realistic in their goals, as cma is often sought for delf defense means. mma is a more realistic format, as people arent going to let you get back up in the street if they take you down. usually.

[banditshaw]

Could be a glove thing.
A lot of traditionalists hate wearing the big gloves and might lean towards the mma gloves.
Also most CMA's have a strong Chin Na aspect which is basically standing grappling no? So that would explain the preference to be able to grab and subdue.
Finally MMA's rules format is the closest to a NHB streetfight, with rules of course.