Shaolin Ape-Monkey Fist

[RenDaHai]

On the ZhuTianXI thing,

I think that he created a qigong like set called Liuhegong and it is this set they are referring to as opposed to the concept of Liuhe which is offcourse much older.

[LFJ]

Right, it's the Liuhegong set that Zhu Tianxi does. His website says he created it. I thought Sal spoke as if it was ancient, along with his Chanyuangong which Sal said was an ancient root of Chen Style Taijiquan.....

[RenDaHai]

Oh I see,

I don't know about TianXi's forms really, lots of stuff I've never seen. Could be.

@Sal

If you like origin forms you HAVE to see nanyuan Xiao Hong Quan,

Every form comes from this!

[Xian]

I mean it would be so simple but can this Nanyuan Xiao Hong Quan be seen on the net ? Thanks.

Kind regards,
Xian

[RenDaHai]

@ Xian

Not a chance,

Sorry

But one Day I'll try to post one

[Xian]

@ Xian

Not a chance,

Sorry

But one Day I'll try to post one

Haha I am not suprised But thanks anyway. You know normally I wouldnt have a problem with that. But the more I understand the more I get worried that the less real Traditional Kung Fu people see the more of that pseudo Traditional Kung Fu will be shown to them...


Kind regards,
Xian

[RenDaHai]

Haha I am not suprised But thanks anyway. You know normally I wouldnt have a problem with that. But the more I understand the more I get worried that the less real Traditional Kung Fu people see the more of that pseudo Traditional Kung Fu will be shown to them...


Kind regards,
Xian

Ahaha

Yeah, its true,

But there is no answer, people will not understand what they see....

[wenshu]

Haha I am not suprised But thanks anyway. You know normally I wouldnt have a problem with that. But the more I understand the more I get worried that the less real Traditional Kung Fu people see the more of that pseudo Traditional Kung Fu will be shown to them...


Kind regards,
Xian

Ahaha

Yeah, its true,

But there is no answer, people will not understand what they see....

I love the smell of arrogance in the morning.

[rett]

I love the smell of an inferiority complex mixed with dairy sweat.

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

You mean on this vid:
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTcyMTE3NDY4.html

No, that's just his version of Datongbiquan again.

What is the history of that Da Tongbi set? I am seeing Lao Hong Quan, and stuff from the 32 posture Tai Tzu Chang Chuan in it.

Was it derived from them? or a possible forerunner?

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

Does anyone know where I can find good applications for the moves in the Ape/Monkey set?

That would go a long way to helping figure it out. Then we could look at the usage, and compare to other types of Long fist, Taiji quan, Tong Bei etc...

The usage is the heart of the form, without it, the form means nothing.

[Thomas316]

sal, will you ever make an instructional dvd series on chinese martial arts?

[Sal Canzonieri]

嫡传 means handed down in a direct line from the founder, 弟子 means disciple. So as Bodhidharma's 嫡传弟子 it just means he is directly descended from that line. Much like Bodhidharma is Śākyamuni Buddha's 嫡传弟子.

What I found strange was the fact that they were saying Zhu Tianxi originally created Liuhegong. It goes on to say how he used a lot of his experience and knowledge of Neigong to put it together.

Hmm, I find that hard to believe that he solely created it.

I have a Shaolin Qigong book that has the same set, with different names for the movements, and in a different order.

So maybe he redeveloped the set in the way he particularly teaches it, but regardless, the original postures are already in existence.

[Sal Canzonieri]

What is the history of that Da Tongbi set? I am seeing Lao Hong Quan, and stuff from the 32 posture Tai Tzu Chang Chuan in it.

Was it derived from them? or a possible forerunner?

Shaolin Tongbi Quan was developed from TZ Chang Quan and Hong Quan.

[Sal Canzonieri]

sal, will you ever make an instructional dvd series on chinese martial arts?

Well, that sure would be nice. I'd love to do one were I such exactly how the body mechanics are and WHY it is done that way for maximum efficiency and effectiveness.

I just got filmed doing step by step how to do qigong and neigong.

I should just take a form and do it, I'll keep it in mind.