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    Quote Originally Posted by LFJ View Post
    It only had a very short clip of him doing the set. It kind of started and ended in the middle. I haven't seen a full version of the film.

    It's at 2:20 here:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uTGE_IxC2w

    Well, the secret of the last part is that it does the movements found in Taiji Ruler.

    The only place I have seen the whole set performed publicly was in the book 'Shaolin Quan" that shows all the sets done in Deng Feng village by Liu Zhen Hai
    This book is also the only place to find all four sets of Lao Hong Quan.
    And the only place to find the complete Da Louhan Quan.

    I think the book has been reissued now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sal Canzonieri View Post
    Arrrghh! It stops at the same spot that the other stops at!

    Well, the secret of the last part is that it does the movements found in Taiji Ruler.

    The only place I have seen the whole set performed publicly was in the book 'Shaolin Quan" that shows all the sets done in Deng Feng village by Liu Zhen Hai
    This book is also the only place to find all four sets of Lao Hong Quan.
    And the only place to find the complete Da Louhan Quan.

    I think the book has been reissued now.
    Crap. looked at it in slow motion, there is a section missing near the end!

    COOL! thanks for posting this great find!
    Now if someone can just find a video of the Deng Feng Lao Hong Quan sets. I learned them all (4) but I would love to see a video to compare.
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    It took us over 2 years to find these. So I think we've done pretty good. The great thing is Cui Xiqi is still alive (born in 1922) and able to teach still. He's also the one that did this Datongbiquan, which is much more dense in technique than what we usually see.

    Here's some other stuff he teaches:
    http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTcyMTE3NDY4.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by LFJ View Post
    It took us over 2 years to find these. So I think we've done pretty good. The great thing is Cui Xiqi is still alive (born in 1922) and able to teach still. He's also the one that did this Datongbiquan, which is much more dense in technique than what we usually see.

    Here's some other stuff he teaches:
    http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTcyMTE3NDY4.html
    That is one of the best and most "old school" Datongbi quan around.

    I'm sure he knows the Lao Hong Quan 4 sets!
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    By the way, Zhu Tian Xi has a new website with loads of rare videos!

    And I can't open ANY of them!
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    So the one in front of the temple is the full set?

    Actually when comparing the two clips, on the shorter clip (wearing black) at about 2:40 he starts doing new movements, and ends up turning around and continuing the set.

    It looks like in the full clip (wearing white) at about 0:50 he only does a couple simple moves before finishing. It doesn't have all the extra moves that are in the other clip. It also looks like the other one would have continued more if it hadn't been cut off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sal Canzonieri View Post
    By the way, Zhu Tian Xi has a new website with loads of rare videos!

    And I can't open ANY of them!
    What's the website? I'll see if I can't open them...

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    Quote Originally Posted by LFJ View Post
    What's the website? I'll see if I can't open them...
    http://www.shaolinzhutianxi.com/
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    Quote Originally Posted by LFJ View Post
    So the one in front of the temple is the full set?

    Actually when comparing the two clips, on the shorter clip (wearing black) at about 2:40 he starts doing new movements, and ends up turning around and continuing the set.

    It looks like in the full clip (wearing white) at about 0:50 he only does a couple simple moves before finishing. It doesn't have all the extra moves that are in the other clip. It also looks like the other one would have continued more if it hadn't been cut off.
    Ahh, such insanity!

    Yeah, I see that he was about to start a new section at the end of the black clothes clip.
    The white clothes clip, he is doing a salute in the beginning that is not seen in the black clip.
    In the white clip he does some of the moves more than once.
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    Strange, Zhu Tianxi's website says this about Liuhegong:

    少林六合功建立在中医理论的基础,是中国功夫中的内功修炼方法,由达摩嫡传弟子朱天喜(法号释行真)大师所独创,它汲取了传统武术之精髓,更加结合了现代人的身体状况和体质特征,行真大师通过数十载的演练合揣摩,拥有 数不尽心得体会,把呼吸的节奏、气息的调和都充分的融入到功法的演练中去,真正的实现了动作、意念、呼吸三 者合而为一,为气血贯通创造了一个和谐环境,达到天人合一、延年益寿之效。 少林六合功的动作演练起来刚柔并济,呼吸与动作紧密配合,内修外敛,能够舒筋通络,调和阴阳,养生健身等。 适用于慢 性腰腿疼、慢性心脑血管疾病、偏瘫后遗症等亚健康人群,对心慌胸闷、失眠健忘、烦躁不安、言语不清、手足麻 木有良好的康复作用。

    少林六合功共有六式:

    第一式 单手推山宣肺气、
    第二式 风摆杨柳健脾气(斜推掌)、
    第三式 怀中抱月舒肝气、
    第四式 降龙伏虎调三焦(伏虎式、单按掌)、
    第五式 罗汉托天养心气、
    第六式 青龙摆尾益肾气(双按掌)。
    The line in blue says; "Originally created by the direct descendant of Bodhidharma, Great Master Zhu Tianxi (Dharma Name Shi Xingzhen)".

    I can open his Liuhegong video, which is from his instructional. The others aren't loading.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LFJ View Post
    Strange, Zhu Tianxi's website says this about Liuhegong:



    The line in blue says; "Originally created by the direct descendant of Bodhidharma, Great Master Zhu Tianxi (Dharma Name Shi Xingzhen)".

    I can open his Liuhegong video, which is from his instructional. The others aren't loading.
    That's weird. How is he the direct descendent, ha. He must be thousands of years old then. Must be a typo by the webmaster.

    The direct descendent of Damo is who Shaolin always credits their early stuff to.

    Yeah, I can't open any of them, they start but don't load. Some Chinese format we don't have?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LFJ View Post
    It took us over 2 years to find these. So I think we've done pretty good. The great thing is Cui Xiqi is still alive (born in 1922) and able to teach still. He's also the one that did this Datongbiquan, which is much more dense in technique than what we usually see.

    Here's some other stuff he teaches:
    http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTcyMTE3NDY4.html
    What is the set after the monkey-ape set?

    Looks like one of the missing Shaolin Taizu Chang Quan sets?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sal Canzonieri View Post
    That's weird. How is he the direct descendent, ha. He must be thousands of years old then. Must be a typo by the webmaster.

    The direct descendent of Damo is who Shaolin always credits their early stuff to.
    嫡传 means handed down in a direct line from the founder, 弟子 means disciple. So as Bodhidharma's 嫡传弟子 it just means he is directly descended from that line. Much like Bodhidharma is Śākyamuni Buddha's 嫡传弟子.

    What I found strange was the fact that they were saying Zhu Tianxi originally created Liuhegong. It goes on to say how he used a lot of his experience and knowledge of Neigong to put it together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sal Canzonieri View Post
    What is the set after the monkey-ape set?

    Looks like one of the missing Shaolin Taizu Chang Quan sets?
    You mean on this vid:
    http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTcyMTE3NDY4.html

    No, that's just his version of Datongbiquan again.

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    Hey Guys,

    I'm privileged to say I train under CuiXiQi. He started learning Shaolin back in the 1930's and is still teaching to this day, every day.

    He is a great Master and is the strongest link to the Shaolin of the pre-modern era.

    I know this Datongbei and it is very dense in technique. There is also a second set!

    The Youku video J posted is a performance from him and his son and grandsons. The first set is not complete, he stopped early.

    As a rare treat the last performance has Xiaohong quan on the right, DamoZhang in the back and QIxing Quan on the left. Whats great is this is the early shaolin temple Qixing Quan, not the now standard version. I don't think another video of this version exists. This Qixing quan also has a second set. Master CuiXiqi repertoire is vast.

    @Sal sorry to say though I don't think they practice the Lao Hong quan you are talking about. Lao hong is quite location specific and there are many variations. I am aware of the version your interested in but I have yet to find its source. I'll let you know when I do though. They do practice all 4 sets of xiaohong quan though!

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