Quote Originally Posted by old8step View Post
I do have to say this I don't know where the base for groundfighting in 8 step came from or where Shyun got it but he had it back before BJJ became popular in the U.S I was with him when UFC 1 came out and asked him about it and he showed me some stuff. Not as advanced as my traditinal training but he did have it ground in there.
In light of some of the info that guys here brought up, it probably came from whatever the source for Cartmell's book came from.