typical of distance learning-not with DVD's, but when they see their teacher once a year. You can't make any progress that way. You try to correct them, and then they go off and the form drifts away.
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typical of distance learning-not with DVD's, but when they see their teacher once a year. You can't make any progress that way. You try to correct them, and then they go off and the form drifts away.
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Thank you all for the mostly constructive comments. At the time this was filmed, the 3 students were new yellow sashes and were fairly new to the set. One of the students is calling out the names and some may have noticed a mistake on one of the names. You may also notice that they are not using the Leopard fist for the strikes and instead are using a normal fist. The footwork is also basic, not utilizing the diu geuk or poon loong guek motions that make the footwork more lively. This comes at a latter stage, once they have better grasp of the basic aspects of the form.
Extension, rotation, timing, power are all improving as they continue to work on this form. I teach Ng Lung Choy as one of our foundation forms. We practice it in step by step form as seen in the video, in 3 move sequences to begin working timing and speed/power, and continuously from beginning to end.
We do focus on penetration, extension, full use of the turning of the hips and waist, and other important aspects, but in a progressive, incremental manner.
Peace,
Mario.
Last edited by chingjong; 03-11-2009 at 09:14 AM.
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We appreciate that this material is available. It's still a good video, and it does show the mechanics of beginners, and how they can be taught in a gradual process of improvement. Keep up the good work!
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However, the first form is from the Chan On Pak lineageOriginally Posted by hskwarrior
"The man who stands for nothing is likely to fall for anything"
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周洪龍 金山鴻勝武舘 - 鴻勝佛家正宗
and whom is chan on pak's teacher?
which brings up the questioin, why is there so many versions of chan heung's ng lung choy?
i understand it could be evolution....who knows?
Last edited by hskwarrior; 03-18-2009 at 04:05 PM.
Hung Sing Boyz, we gottit on lock down
when he's around quick to ground and pound a clown
Bruh we thought you knew better
when it comes to head huntin, ain't no one can do it better
Chop Choy
Chan Heung
"The man who stands for nothing is likely to fall for anything"
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周洪龍 金山鴻勝武舘 - 鴻勝佛家正宗
posted by JAZA : Even the che kuen you posted some time ago Frank, I think it's pretty similar.
Yeah i do agree about the che kuen i've posted. In some aspects it looks a little similar to Ng Lung Choy......and in many others its not. however, our che kuen is very very similar to the lau bun lineage Cheung Kuen.
Hung Sing Boyz, we gottit on lock down
when he's around quick to ground and pound a clown
Bruh we thought you knew better
when it comes to head huntin, ain't no one can do it better
周洪龍 金山鴻勝武舘 - 鴻勝佛家正宗
ok....that brings up the question....
Why did daddy teach the same form to his two sons differently? to be different?
Hung Sing Boyz, we gottit on lock down
when he's around quick to ground and pound a clown
Bruh we thought you knew better
when it comes to head huntin, ain't no one can do it better
Chop Choy
Who knows? Maybe when he taught Koon Pak his ideas had changed from when he taught On Pak. Maybe their physiques/attributes/attitudes were markedly different. Maybe he only taught it to On Pak and Koon Pak created his own version, or vice versa, maybe he taught them both the same and it was changed in a subsequent generation, or it was lost in a subsequent generation and they created a new form to replace it. Maybe he was just contrary, I t was 150 years ago and there's no way to know.
"The man who stands for nothing is likely to fall for anything"
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you could be right. but, maybe at that time there wasn't too many forms chan heung was teaching, and wanted to focus on each's individual's skills amd created different sets?
but doesn't that kinda mess things up when recording the system for posterity?
Hung Sing Boyz, we gottit on lock down
when he's around quick to ground and pound a clown
Bruh we thought you knew better
when it comes to head huntin, ain't no one can do it better
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been away from this forum for a while
but i can answer that question
Chan Koon Pak learnt off Jeung Hung Sing, his techniques are combination of "sun wui sau faht and hung sing kuen"
Chan On Pak never learnt off Jeung Hung Sing, his hand techniques are just "sun wui sau faht"
this was told to me by many respected elders of the clf association of hong kong
周洪龍 金山鴻勝武舘 - 鴻勝佛家正宗
thanks chasincharp.....
thats what i've heard as well.
Hung Sing Boyz, we gottit on lock down
when he's around quick to ground and pound a clown
Bruh we thought you knew better
when it comes to head huntin, ain't no one can do it better
Chop Choy
The problemn with that theory is that Chan Koon Pak's line has far more in common with Chan On Pak's line than Jeong Yim's.
Also Chan Koon Pak was only 10 when Jeong Yim left King Mui.
Last edited by Ben Gash; 03-19-2009 at 07:20 AM.
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周洪龍 金山鴻勝武舘 - 鴻勝佛家正宗
ben, according to your knowledge, Chan Koon Pak was 10 yrs old in what year?
oh never mind.............ummmmmm.........
Ben.......jeung yim left Chan Heung in 1841..........from 1863-1867, Jeung Yim was on the run from the government and was in Hong Kong. In 1867 Jeung Yim returned to fut san to re-open his school.
Last edited by hskwarrior; 03-19-2009 at 07:47 AM.
Hung Sing Boyz, we gottit on lock down
when he's around quick to ground and pound a clown
Bruh we thought you knew better
when it comes to head huntin, ain't no one can do it better
Chop Choy
By that reckoning then (I was taking the openning of the Futsan school as the date) Chan Koon Pak hadn't even been born.
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