hi
i have seen dale's website before. his way is the traditional way--the way i intended to learn it. basically smack a linen bag full of material. start with softer stuff and end with hard stuff. and accompany with proper dit da jiu
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hi
i have seen dale's website before. his way is the traditional way--the way i intended to learn it. basically smack a linen bag full of material. start with softer stuff and end with hard stuff. and accompany with proper dit da jiu
GM of Hadaka Korosu
yes and no, contact him, trust me on this...Originally Posted by clam61
Ever done any hand conditioning before?
Psalms 144:1
Praise be my Lord my Rock,
He trains my hands for war, my fingers for battle !
Wing Chun Fighter
Conditioning
Whats the benefit in conditioning arms and shins?
Some people frown on limb conditioning. They say it can cause health problems what do you guys think?
Snake in the Grass
If done wrong, yes, it can cause nerve damage and bone problems.
Usually these result from conditioning too hard in the beginning and not building up gradually.
What do you call someone who practices Dim Mak on themselves?
Dum Fuk!
GM of Hadaka Korosu
Yes, the gradual build up is crucial as is not hitting hard any any stage.
You are always, basically, just tapping, of course as you get more "forged" your just tapping may seem liek hard hitting to someone else, and to them it would be.
Psalms 144:1
Praise be my Lord my Rock,
He trains my hands for war, my fingers for battle !
Registered User
yes i have contacted him before and seen his site. his method involves strking a bag full of stuff, qigong and proper herbal medicine. what is not traditional/
GM of Hadaka Korosu
Not saying that it isn't traditional, just that you may be able to start off with steel shot from the beginning and not have to go with the different mediums.
Of course, both methods work very well.
Psalms 144:1
Praise be my Lord my Rock,
He trains my hands for war, my fingers for battle !
Wing Chun Fighter
Why not start off with something less hard? Why start with steel shots?
GM of Hadaka Korosu
Some people already have well conditioned hands, years of makiwara or bare knuckle bag hitting, for example.
There are many methods of IP training, just beware of the ones that stress hitting/dropping the hand hard and the use of "regular" Jow.
Psalms 144:1
Praise be my Lord my Rock,
He trains my hands for war, my fingers for battle !
Wing Chun Fighter
please explain why beware of the ones that stress hitting or dropping the hand hard?
GM of Hadaka Korosu
Because you will damage your hands.
Correct IP can bruise, yes, but dropping or hitting your hand hard on a hard medium over and over and over will do far more than that.
Psalms 144:1
Praise be my Lord my Rock,
He trains my hands for war, my fingers for battle !
Snake in the Grass
As a general tip:
if you're hands are sore (whether there are visible bruises or not) for 24 hours or more after "conditioning", you're doing something wrong.
Surface conditioning on any part of your body is usually uncomfortable to a degree, but it should never result in any feeling of weakness or lingering pain.
What do you call someone who practices Dim Mak on themselves?
Dum Fuk!
Registered User
o ok i see. but dale recommends to start off with mung beans. he recommends a slower process
Wing Chun Fighter
Why not start off with Sand? why mung beans. You can start off hitting sand lightly right?
Registered User
different material you strike will condition the limp to have different coloring. from different color of the limp one can know if the practice is healty or damaging.
Sand if not totally dry will cause issue with the join...etc at . bean is used to neutralized "fire" according to tradition Chinese medicine. JOw was not the only things used. There are hand wash, conditioning.....etc. Jow have the bone curing or the muscle curing type. Not a size fit all.
Kidney Qi if not full will not create strong bone. With all the sex stuff and process food in this morden days ... one must be really carefull......
What is the point to have all these conditioning when we live in a society which is well protected ?
This type of stuff is not for everyone.
1, the health condition of one and the food/ diet makes a big different . in the past 30 years with all the soft drink and process food make a different.
2, one could cause internal injury such as heart and kidney with long term of mal practice. This will show up after the age of 40's usually.
3, breathing is a big key while Jow is just external stuffs. If one's qi and blood is not strong, these type of practice become problem. if one's qi cant sink to Dan dien one cause trouble to the internal organs. hard press qi to Dan dien also cause problem.
Bottom line, one needs a sifu who knows what is going on fully. hitting some bags and massaging with Jow is not it. and cannot be it for the serious trainer.
Look at those MT practitioner, the decease young....
Why do I post here? simply to let you know, before able to balance one's body. Dont do it . to have a healty middle age and old age living is much better then doing these macho stuffs while young.
We today need to learn the consequence of things so that we dont screw ourself up. Believe me, not worthed because there is a life we need to live. and we can choose a peacefull and healthy one.
Last edited by Hendrik; 03-07-2009 at 07:51 PM.
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