The All South East Asian Full Contact Fights from the late 50's, 60's and 70's.

[banditshaw]

Does anybody have any stories, info, footage, or winners lists from these tournaments held?
I have heard there were fights between different Kung Fu styles and even fights with Thai Boxers that were all full contact and got quite bloody at times.

I think Master Chan Sau Chung produced some fighters that won in those events.

Any info would be appreciated.

Cheers.

[lkfmdc]

http://www.liuhopafa.com/fight11.JPG

Wai Lun choi fighting in one of these, he says on his page he fought for 4 days

Tat Mau Wong also fought in some, had a pic or two of them in an old article

[banditshaw]

Cool link. Thanks.

It seems a shame there isn't a lot of footage of these fights around. It could be a great learning tool for some to see how CMA's fought in that arena.

[lkfmdc]

I've seen old 8 mm black and white footage of it, but doubt it is commercially available

if you do variations on the name in google you'll find several short accounts by people like Lai Hung, and even this crazy fighitng tai chi guy from HK

[banditshaw]

Found this on Lai Hung.

http://www.buksing.com/history/lai_hung/l_h_2.html

[lkfmdc]

brief mention in this tai chi article

http://www.taichichuan.co.uk/informa...79v3n10_1.html

fukien white crane article

http://www.usadojo.com/styles/about-...ne-kung-fu.htm

[sanjuro_ronin]

brief mention in this tai chi article

http://www.taichichuan.co.uk/informa...79v3n10_1.html

fukien white crane article

http://www.usadojo.com/styles/about-...ne-kung-fu.htm

I have Bernards Book on White Crane, Fukien Flying Crane to be exact.
Not bad at all, a good read.

[Baqualin]

brief mention in this tai chi article

http://www.taichichuan.co.uk/informa...79v3n10_1.html

fukien white crane article

http://www.usadojo.com/styles/about-...ne-kung-fu.htm

Very nice!!!! Great thread so-far.
BQ

[Baqualin]

I have Bernards Book on White Crane, Fukien Flying Crane to be exact.
Not bad at all, a good read.

SJ....a little off subject....you posted a few vid,s of some really good Tai Chi combat apps a couple of months ago....could you repost them....can't remember what thread they were on....getting old
BQ

[sanjuro_ronin]

SJ....a little off subject....you posted a few vid,s of some really good Tai Chi combat apps a couple of months ago....could you repost them....can't remember what thread they were on....getting old
BQ

Ah dude, I can't remember which ones you are referring too, can you give me an idea of what was on them?

[Baqualin]

Ah dude, I can't remember which ones you are referring too, can you give me an idea of what was on them?

I think it was on the Tai Chi thread....they were vid.'s from the UK and showed real combat apps for various postures from the Yang form. I really liked them....they were very modern and straight to the point.

[sanjuro_ronin]

I think it was on the Tai Chi thread....they were vid.'s from the UK and showed real combat apps for various postures from the Yang form. I really liked them....they were very modern and straight to the point.

This one?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqVMKXf4ogw

[Baqualin]

This one?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqVMKXf4ogw

YES Thanks!!! When the internal students go into the external classes and spar they get their a$$es kicked.....I'm working with them to turn the tables...a couple are starting to get it...I've got them wedging.

[sanjuro_ronin]

YES Thanks!!! When the internal students go into the external classes and spar they get their a$$es kicked.....I'm working with them to turn the tables...a couple are starting to get it...I've got them wedging.

The main reason that "internal" ( no such thing by the way) students get their asses hand to them is because they tend NOT to train their fighting principles in a fighting way.
Taiji has some of the best power production for short distance strikes, but when was the last time you saw a taiji person doing them VS a bag, much less another fighter?
Then how do they expect to be able to them for real?

[lkfmdc]

The main reason that "internal" ( no such thing by the way) students get their asses hand to them is because they tend NOT to train their fighting principles in a fighting way.
Taiji has some of the best power production for short distance strikes, but when was the last time you saw a taiji person doing them VS a bag, much less another fighter?
Then how do they expect to be able to them for real?

the label "internal" was the worst thing to ever happen to those arts, because in practice their techniques are good striking and good grappling, but since they seldom train realistically anymore, much of it is being lost (or is lost totally)