Do you have a root?

[stonecrusher69]

Why do you feel you can not move in YGKYM?

Isn't it possible to lift the knee to cover. To step backwards or sideways from YGKYM?

What about when your inclose. Could YGKYM be used to adminster elbow strikes more effeciently?

if you step backwards or sideways or anyother way is that the YGKYM?

[Hendrik]

That's why boxers, kickboxers, etc. who are really out there "pushing cars" find they don't need to talk about "root".

There are mechanically sound ways to do anything. "Root" doesn't really help explain it, describe it, or do it.

That is because you have no clue on what the Chinese means by "root" or "rooting".


MT kicker root different then a boxer. pushing a car root different then MT kicker.... with the term Rooting, if one knows one can be very specifically communicate what type of root. and that you are clueless.

[stonecrusher69]

excellent!! not to long which i like, good info for beginners and vets alike.

Glad you liked it..

[Hendrik]

Rooting , in general there are two different type of rooting. and from these two different types more derivative are given birth to.

Thus, Rooting is something DEAD similar to the Root of a Tree. It is a live and dynamic.

[stonecrusher69]

Rooting , in general there are two different type of rooting. and from these two different types more derivative are given birth to.

Thus, Rooting is something DEAD similar to the Root of a Tree. It is a live and dynamic.

It would be nice if you can write something on these two types of rooting your talking about.

[Hendrik]

It would be nice if you can write something on these two types of rooting your talking about.

I would let others who knows WCK to share first. That way I can learn also.


and


most of so called Rooting or Structure training of YJKYM doesnt even work when one stand on the top of a wrestling mat.

[Katsu Jin Ken]

YJKYM is a training tool to get you to "feel" your root. As SLT is the only stationary (that is you dont move the legs) form, rooting is introduced in the beginning because it is somethin you need from the very beginning. SLT is the "beginning" of the WC system so why not learn all the tools including rooting at the beginning of the system. YJKYM isnt a fighting stance its a training stance. If you spar in YJKYM your much much better than me.

[Hendrik]

1, YJKYM is a training tool to get you to "feel" your root.

2, As SLT is the only stationary (that is you dont move the legs) form, .

Your idea above is a contradiction; and the root cause of a serious WCK problem.


Again, similar in the WuZu Vesus WCK Chi sau thread some with CRITICAL THINKING might think what I said doesnt make any sense.

Silence and all these stuffs doesnt make any sense with CRITICAL LOGICAL THINKING because it is not about THINKING but KNOWing.


A nature one piece trying to describe with multiple segments and every blind keep speculating with what they touches. and all are blind.

Just some thoughts.

[AdrianK]

Yes lets all stop thinking and start knowing

[Hendrik]

Anyone like to translate what GM Chen Xiao says at 1.20/1.42 ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldH40uF_f28


Is is about "rooting" into ground....etc?

Or is it about the six or eight directional vector force?

[stonecrusher69]

Anyone like to translate what GM Chen Xiao says at 1.20/1.42 ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldH40uF_f28


Is is about "rooting" into ground....etc?

Or is it about the six or eight directional vector force?

I have no audio, but I can see from when Sifu Chen was being pushed( standing on leg) Sifu Chen was able to redirect the force from his partner back to him ,so in essence he was pushing himself. other times he sifu Chen was directing the force into his root and into the ground.

[Hendrik]

I have no audio,


but I can see from when Sifu Chen was being pushed( standing on leg)


Sifu Chen was able to redirect the force from his partner back to him ,so in essence he was pushing himself.


other times he sifu Chen was directing the force into his root and into the ground.

Is what you think what he is doing? Find out.

You see, cooking sand cannot make rice. A wrongly train YJKYM, SLT/SNT disregard how sound is the theory or Sifu says is a kissed of death. IMHO

[Hendrik]

here is a chat between my close WCner friend and me.



Take it for what it worth.


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Hendrik,


this is probably a better clip from Chen XW with some more explaining and thanks for the subtitle too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J85AR...eature=related

However, I feel that Ju Dai Tong's demo has a different emphasis. Opponent's force does not even enter the body, so what root? what 8 face support?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gj1DoQ04sx8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EBcwpvJyuk&NR=1


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DY,


The CXW is the basic.

The Ju Dai Tong is the Hua (disolve) state after the CXW.

Thus, it is said, The Young Chuan is not the root, the waist is not the master, the spine similar to willow, one hand spread become thousands of hand.

One cant jump step from the CXW state to JDT state. It is impossible. only when one is very very fluent with the 6/8 force vectors one let go into the silence and enter the Hua State.

Thus, The Using Silence to lead action of WCK is not as what the general think. it is the Hua State stuffs.

But now, if one doesnt even know the 6/8 direction force basic stuffs and stuck with the stupid rooting concept, it is hopeless.

[Hendrik]

I am sorry if I shattered some of your's dream on the rooting. IMHO, to know now is better then putting another 10 years and found out later it cant sustain a BJJ take down. Face it most YJKYM or SLT training was going a wrong direction and it wont work.

Best Regards

[Violent Designs]

I am sorry if I shattered some of your's dream on the rooting. IMHO, to know now is better then putting another 10 years and found out later it cant sustain a BJJ take down. Face it most YJKYM or SLT training was going a wrong direction and it wont work.

Best Regards

BJJ takedowns suck.