How to Defeat a MMA guy

[WinterPalm]

I would wager a lot of that has to do with him just knowing how to position/control his body, or people not doing the technique exactly correct.

While being flexible helps, and certainly can buy you some time, it's not going to save you against someone who knows how to perform the submissions properly.

For example, I have very flexible shoulders and it is very difficult for someone to tap me with an Americana, mostly because people get carried away trying to crank the arm and forget to slide it down low before attempting the submission. But, when done properly, my flexibility is neutralized.

For sure. Often though, if you have to over extend yourself to apply certain submissions due to abnormal flexibility, it can leave you open to sweeps and such.

That said, to the TS, there is no such thing as MMA guys...just martial artists trying to cover all their bases in a way as best as possible.

[goju]

This is true.



This is not.

actually it is i train mma and many moves odnt work on double jointed or flexible people while they are easy to apply on stiff folks
even gene lebell noted this

[goju]

I would wager a lot of that has to do with him just knowing how to position/control his body, or people not doing the technique exactly correct.

While being flexible helps, and certainly can buy you some time, it's not going to save you against someone who knows how to perform the submissions properly.

For example, I have very flexible shoulders and it is very difficult for someone to tap me with an Americana, mostly because people get carried away trying to crank the arm and forget to slide it down low before attempting the submission. But, when done properly, my flexibility is neutralized.

and while your busy trying to crank the arm you waste to much effort and time until you realize how flexible they are and this gives the flexible person a chance to escape /apply his tecnique
i have freaky double jointed shoulders and absolutely none of the gracie jujitsu self defense techniques work on me

a flexible guy will definetly have the advantage in a bjj tournament
and since a ajority of mma gyms dont advocate stretching tma stylist have the advantage

[Violent Designs]

actually it is i train mma and many moves odnt work on double jointed or flexible people while they are easy to apply on stiff folks
even gene lebell noted this

I thought you had a Karate coach and wrestling coach to train you for MMA?

[wiz cool c]

My Bagua Teacher back in the states said,all the things you're not allowed to do in a competition are the things you would do to beat a bigger guy in a fight. I think this can apply to mma as well. But you need to know how to grapple,that is a must.

[golden arhat]

never forgoet chinese barehand martial arts was mainly used to train hand eye cordination for weapons, most of it is a inferior figting style

i've never heard that before

[golden arhat]

i didnt know i wasnt a street fighter just because i train mma doesnt mean i cant fight dirty

i dont need special training to kick someone in the balls or poke em in the eyes

[goju]

i do have akrate coach and a wrestling coach!

[Scott R. Brown]

When he comes in for a tackle, stick your knife in between his cervical vertebrae!

[MasterKiller]

and while your busy trying to crank the arm you waste to much effort and time until you realize how flexible they are and this gives the flexible person a chance to escape /apply his tecnique
i have freaky double jointed shoulders and absolutely none of the gracie jujitsu self defense techniques work on me

I doubt it, but whatever.

a flexible guy will definetly have the advantage in a bjj tournament
and since a ajority of mma gyms dont advocate stretching tma stylist have the advantage

Most MMA guys recognize the importance of stretching. Many, many fighters advocate cross-training in yoga. You must attend the worst gym in America.

[goju]

um no they dont this gos back to me noting how a majority of them cant kick to save their lives and why cant they kick? because they dont stretch duh


and i dont care if you beleive it wasnt asking you to

[Pork Chop]

Well when i saw this thread, all I could think of to post was:
"invite them to a "muay thai smoker" and beat they azz".
http://www.youtube.com/user/SitVongPhetCory
but i thought it sounded a little crass....

[Kansuke]

um no they dont this gos back to me noting how a majority of them cant kick to save their lives and why cant they kick? because they dont stretch duh


and i dont care if you beleive it wasnt asking you to

Do you care if I don't believe it? How many people not believing you will it take for you to care?

[Mr Punch]

Do you care if I don't believe it? How many people not believing you will it take for you to care?

Let's make that a plus one.

This kid's funny.

[goju]

wel my thought is if they dont care than why bother?