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This video clip is the first part of an old French documentary about Alan Lee's Northern Shaolin kung fu school. It seems that he has been teaching kung fu in New York since the late 60's.
Does anyone know of this school? Or Grand Master Alan Lee?
Can anyone comment on his reputation?
Another interesting aspect of this video is that the students spar using kung fu techniques rather than kickboxing ones, seen so often in Mckung fu schools, nowadays.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Dw88fw6lXA
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Wow!Originally Posted by Lokhopkuen
Is that your school?
Your signature describes the type of movements that one can see in that documentary.
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So you thought that was good sparring?
Kung Fu is good for you.
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how anyone can view this as good is beyond me.
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Heh, heh, looked like they were going all "capoeira" on each other near the end...
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Wonder what Mr. Ross thinks of Alan Lee... ?
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The thread's title is not a statement but asks that question. However, I will say that at least they are using kung fu techniques and stances and not glorified kickboxing ones. Also it seems to be controlled sparring without certain types of contact.
All in all when one looks at this one sees kung fu rather than the more common kickboxing techniques one sees in the pseudo kung fu schools so prevalent nowadays.
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Read my answer to David Jamieson's post before you make an even bigger a$$ of yourself. Then you can go to your MMA gym and ground fight with your fellow knuckleheads!
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Unfortunately what Mr Ross thinks does not matter as Mr Ross is a glorified kickboxer whose only purpose in these forums is to sell his MMA classes and the accompanying dvds. He wouldn't know real kung fu if it fell on his head, inspite of who his teacher was.
Of course, there are many knuckleheads and meat heads here who would not agree with me but then that is no surprise.
Perhaps some authentic kung fu sifus, meaning REAL ones, can give their opinions.
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Kungfu is not posing. It is entering, using optimum tactics and finishing.
making long stances, jumping about and posing are highly ineffective and are NOT kungfu by any stretch.
this is a fundamental problem with the idea of what is kungfu fighting or using chinese martial arts to fight.
If I enter, and punch straight to the jaw and bypass any crane posture etal, then my kungfu is good because it did what it was supposed to do inasmuch as I attained victory through action.
IN essence, that video showed a bit of training methdology (the stance work, meditation) but the beach scenes were utter nonsense and completely unrelated to martial arts.
If you want to use kungfu in a fight then it doesn't have to look like a technique from a textbook, it has to be effective and use the most direct lines of attack and not waste a lot of energy in doing so. THAT is good kungfu.
I disagree that it shows kungfu in fighting, it doesn't,. it shows a bunch of garbage.
you need to understand combat better if you think mma is bad. NOthing is bad if it is effective and if you can step up and win a fight with cranes beak plucking, then by all means step up! Otherwise there's no point in dissing another line of practice that to date has trashed many a style and made their practitioners look like ragdolls and children being tossed about by an angry uncle.
Take the kungfu and make it work and get OUT of teh mindset of thought boxing.
It's the only way that kungfu will advance. so long as we defend stupid methods and worthless tactics is as long as we ourselves drive kungfu into the ground and render it laughable and worthless.
That really really really needs to be understood.
In friendly dueling with no harm, lots of stylistic stuff looks great and is fun, but in reality and in visceral combat, simple = better.
Kung Fu is good for you.
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what are your thoughts on this video. dont know the rules, but i saw no head punches thrown, so i think it was only kicks to the head. the guy in red is cma
definately an old and circulated video
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it's taekwondo.
good fight!
Kung Fu is good for you.
Bad the Fukc Ass
well the one guy is tkd, but the other guy is cma, fighting a tdk guy.
but hey, its afghan, idk how it all works over there.
i did see an interview with the guy in red, he claims shaolin.
mainly, the point here is that im glad i can view youtube at work again. DOWN WITH THE MAN< BREAK ALL THE SENSORS!
Last edited by Lucas; 06-23-2009 at 01:42 PM.
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