Hung Kuen's Tiet Sien Kuen gives one many a bad habit with its overemphasis on hardness and breaking energy flow with pauses. It is not the constant energy flow as you see in WCK, or the energy taught in many Nei Jia. Compare it with SPM, and you know many gaps in the art."
I have seen it performed that way, and that is also how I was originally taught.
But..It can also be played with a more constant energy flow, where the pauses are not abrupt, but merely a lessening and moving to go from one transition to another, without break. (Is it better? More refined? Is it even correct for that matter? Who knows?Leung Guan (Tiet Kiu-Saam)Wong Kei-Ying, Wong Fei-Hung, etc are all dead, and many generations have passed.
Even in WCK there is break between sections of SNT, or CK, or BJ. Breaks before and after huen sao, etc. In SPM, there are breaks, but it can be played without breaks. Sup Bot Dim has no breaks when it is played correctly. Sam Bo Ging also has no breaks when it is played in that manner.(this is our method-playing the set differently, each way, emphasizes a different aspect of the hand)
"And as far as the Sup Yee Ji Kiu Sao go, unfortunately, more of it is lip service."
True. Personally, I feel it was originally meant just as an attempt to put into words, to clarify what should be taught and felt through direct transmission. The words got in the way.
When you ask my teacher which bridge is which, he responds,
"I have no idea. My hand just moves"
But people love to quote it.
My reason for mentioning it is to show that the hand has many ways to move and to respond to energy.
Each method can be played many ways-long short, hard, soft, springy,sticky, etc. There is no one single way that is "correct."
Unfortunately, many Hung-Ga players like to write articles, and quote the sup yi kiu sao and link it to specific movements within TSK; "This is sinking.." etc -rather than saying,"This can be considered one method of applying the concept of sinking.."
"Hung Ga Kuen is more in the realm of the muscular power, as opposed to the soft, structure force of WCK. Its no offence, and not that Hung Kuen is not a great art, but we are speaking of different things here."
I see this in the long bridge large horse type stuff. I do not see this in the short bridge, small horse techniques within the system, where I see a great deal of soft, structural force being played.
WCK's energy is like pumping without release. Hung Kuen is like pumping with a hand pump and having to stop and rest...I hope this analogy is clear....
again, I see this with the large, gross, power movements-"One breath, one strike"
But it is not evident within the short hand techniques of Hung Kuen in my experience.
I am not arguing that it is the same. Just saying that things aren't black and white.
"My Gung-Fu may not be Your Gung-Fu.
Gwok-Si, Gwok-Faht"
"I will not be part of the generation
that killed Kung-Fu."
....step.
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