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    Now That China Banned...

    I think it is the beginning of this year?

    China banned youtube.

    I have posted some practice vid's since 06. They were popular among China's Ba Ji forums.

    I know that some ridiculed and some admired.

    But now the viewing really dropped for my vid's.

    C'est La Vie !


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    a lot youtube vid's were reposted on you ku etc.

    But functionalities and accecibility are so much better with youtube.

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    see if you like to discuss CMA related topics with peers working in China.

    guess what they can NOT see embedded youtube videos.

    it is very sad that youtube being the biggest provider of hosting videos for free.

    and yet a quarter of the world population do not have access to it.

    there are many ways you may bypass and still watch youtube in China.

    I have a friend just came from Chong Qing. We were discussing about this last Sunday.


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    oops. people have to start to store their illegal downloads either porn, music or movie clips on a flash drive or USB device and not hard drive.

    b/c uncle sam is looking for them.

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    do not want to turn into a government policy bashing thread.

    just like to point out that

    we need an easy platform to share CMA videos across the border. I mean mainly China.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SPJ View Post
    oops. people have to start to store their illegal downloads either porn, music or movie clips on a flash drive or USB device and not hard drive.

    b/c uncle sam is looking for them.

    I can buy the China copyright movies and TV series at bookstores in east LA.

    downloading and watching on Chinese websites too slow for me.

    You may also watch on line and pay a low fee. again it is too slow for me or not convenient.

    You may search and listen to just about all the music from youtube.

    it is not worth it to download illegally and broke the laws.

    just saying.

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    youtube is like the mecca for music videos.

    you may purchase itunes etc.

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    righteous brothers; tina turner etc.

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    china needs to lighten up and let people take care of themselves. Too much control freak/police state nonsense in china.

    be cool if they were actually afforded some real freedoms in that country.
    Kung Fu is good for you.

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    there were many important inventions for communication over a distance.

    1. letters and air mail.

    2. telegram and telephone, fast or instant communications. civil radio etc.

    3. e-mail and internet.

    4. free and easy video hosting on the net. it revolutionized the internet, no longer text and images only, web cam replaced the chatting with text messaging.


    I am so hooked on music videos from youtube since 2005, when they started.

    If I am travelling in China and no access to youtube for my favorite music.

    it would be like a fish without the water,

    or I need my coffee in the morning, I need my youtube or mytube for music listening.

    I would be like eeeeeeerrrrrrrrh. almost pulling my hairs, oops, do not have many hairs anymore.

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    Totally hijacking this thread

    Probably not a fair hijacking, as SPJ had different intentions here, but I think the shift might bring a little life into this ol' thread.

    Beijing is banning all foreign media from publishing online in China

    There may be less variety online in China in the near future. (Reuters/stringer)

    Heather Timmons
    Zheping Huang


    China's Transition
    February 18, 2016
    This article was updated at 6pm in Hong Kong with additional analysis of what the new rules may mean.
    In the latest sign that China’s long-touted “opening up” is reversing into a “closing down,” a Chinese ministry has issued new rules that ban any foreign-invested company from publishing anything online in China, effective next month.
    The Ministry of Industry and Information Technology’s new rules (link in Chinese) could, if they were enforced as written, essentially shut down China as a market for foreign news outlets, publishers, gaming companies, information providers, and entertainment companies starting on March 10. Issued in conjunction with the State Administration of Press, Publication, Radio, Film and Television (SARFT), they set strict new guidelines for what can be published online, and how that publisher should conduct business in China.
    “Sino-foreign joint ventures, Sino-foreign cooperative ventures, and foreign business units shall not engage in online publishing services,” the rules state. Any publisher of online content, including “texts, pictures, maps, games, animations, audios, and videos,” will also be required to store their “necessary technical equipment, related servers, and storage devices” in China, the directive says.

    Foreign media companies including Thomson Reuters, Dow Jones, Bloomberg, the Financial Times, and the New York Times have invested millions of dollars—maybe even hundreds of millions collectively—in building up China-based news organizations in recent years, and publishing news reports in Chinese, for a Chinese audience. Many of these media outlets are currently blocked in China, so top executives have also been involved in months of behind-the-scenes negotiations to try to get the blocks lifted.
    Gaming companies including Sony PlayStation and Microsoft Xbox have been making inroads in China with varying degrees of success, while social media giants like Facebook are clamoring to get in—all drawn by the country’s massive online population, estimated at nearly 700 million people.
    But the new rules would allow only 100% Chinese companies to produce any content that goes online, and then only after approval from Chinese authorities and the acquisition of an online publishing license. Companies will then be expected to self-censor, and not publish any information at all that falls into several broad categories, including:
    harming national unity, sovereignty, and territorial integrity
    disclosing state secrets, endangering national security, or harming national honor and interests
    inciting ethnic hatred or ethnic discrimination, undermining national unity, or going against ethnic customs and habits
    spreading rumors, disturbing social order, or undermining social stability
    insulting or slandering others, infringing upon the legitimate rights of others
    endangering social morality or national cultural tradition
    Quartz contacted the Ministry of Industry and Information Technology from Hong Kong asking for further clarification on how the rules would work, but the ministry said it could only reply to faxed questions that came from a reporter with a mainland press card.

    While the new rules sound draconian, how effective it may be at shutting foreign companies out of China’s internet entirely remains questionable, You Yunting, an IP lawyer and partner at Shanghai’s Debund Law Offices, told Quartz. The State Internet Information Office, under “internet czar” Lu Wei, is actually in charge of internet policy in China, he points out, but these rules were put out by the technology ministry and SARFT. “Websites don’t even belong to their management,” he said. Lu has been reaching out to foreign internet giants, including a high-powered meeting in Seattle last September.
    Scott Livingston, a Hong Kong-based lawyer specializing in Chinese technology law, disagrees. “SARFT has many duties, but with respect to the internet its main task is to regulate online audio and video content, which includes administering the ‘License for Publication of Audio-Visual Programs Through Information Networks,'” (link in Chinese) he said. MIIT, the regulation’s other drafter, “is the nation’s principal internet regulator and the primary body responsible for licensing and registering Chinese websites.”
    Even so, they will be tough to enforce, Ying Chan, the director of the journalism program at the University of Hong Kong, told Quartz. “Using rules of the print age to govern the internet does not work,” she said. “How do you license media in an age when everyone could become a writer and publisher? With these set of regulations, the government is fighting both market forces and technology.”
    Nonetheless, the rules are yet another indicator that under president Xi Jinping, Beijing is moving to consolidate control, reduce foreign influence, and wipe out any dissent in China.
    Correction: An earlier version of this story listed the Associated Press as one of the news outlets that publishes in Chinese for a Chinese audience. An AP spokesperson clarified that it does not, but only provides its content to third-party outlets, including Chinese ones.
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    ttt 4 2017!

    Banned in China: why some of music’s top stars are blacklisted by Beijing
    Katy Perry has no Chinese dates lined up on her 2018 Asia tour despite her huge popularity, but from former teen pop star Miley Cyrus to rock legend Bob Dylan, other artists have found themselves unwelcome in China
    PUBLISHED : Wednesday, 06 December, 2017, 12:46pm
    UPDATED : Wednesday, 06 December, 2017, 2:01pm

    Adam Wright

    When US pop star Katy Perry announced her 2018 Asia tour dates last week – including a performance at AsiaWorld-Expo in Hong Kong on March 30 – notably absent were any shows planned for China.
    Perry is believed to be persona non grata there because she waved a Taiwanese flag and wore a sunflower dress during a concert in Taipei in 2015. Many observers saw her attire as a statement supporting the Taiwanese anti-China protesters who had used the sunflower symbol as part of their campaign the year before.
    More recently, she was denied a visa in November to perform in Shanghai at the first Victoria’s Secret Fashion Show to be held in China. Perry joins a long list of music icons banned from performing in China – here are some other notable acts on the blacklist.


    The US rapper and husband of Beyoncé was banned from performing in China in 2006 because his music contains “too many profane lyrics”. The Ministry of Culture said in a statement that it had “decided to protect the city’s hip hop fans from nasty lyrics about pimps, guns and drugs”. Jay-Z had been scheduled to perform in Shanghai, but the promoter said some of his songs apparently “contain too much vulgar language”.


    The Icelandic songstress ignited a firestorm of controversy in 2008 when she chanted “free Tibet” and wore an outfit bearing the Tibetan flag during a concert in Shanghai. The Ministry of Culture said Bjork “not only broke Chinese laws and regulations and hurt the feelings of Chinese people, but also went against the professional code of an artist”, and she hasn’t been allowed back.

    Miley Cyrus

    The former teen star and current twerking queen was accused of racism after posting a photo of herself making slanted eyes in 2009. She was barred from entering China, and broadcasts of her TV show and films, and sales of her merchandise, were banned. “Miss Cyrus has made it clear she is no friend of China or anyone of East Asian descent. We have no interest in further polluting our children’s minds with her American ignorance,” the ministry said.


    The British band were reportedly “bewildered” when told their planned 2009 concerts in Shanghai and Beijing would not be going ahead. The promoter of the concerts said the licences were revoked after Chinese officials discovered that Oasis singer Noel Gallagher had appeared at a Tibetan Freedom concert in 1997. But an official later said it was nothing to do with Tibet, and that the gigs were cancelled due to a “tough economic situation”.
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    Continued from previous post

    Bob Dylan

    The veteran protest singer was forced to cancel shows in Beijing and Shanghai in 2010. At the time, the promoter of Dylan’s debut China shows said the Ministry of Culture was wary of the singer’s past as a counterculture icon and the lyrics of his songs such as The Times They Are a-Changin’ and Blowin’ In The Wind. Dylan was allowed to perform in China in 2011 – but only with a pre-approved set list.

    Lady Gaga

    First the provocative singer and LGBTQ activist was banned in 2011 for “creating confusion” in the online music scene and damaging China’s national security. Although this ban had been lifted by 2016, Lady Gaga then found herself back on the blacklist after she was pictured with the Dalai Lama, leading to an order to remove her music from all Chinese streaming sites.

    Maroon 5

    The American pop-rock band were scheduled to perform in Beijing and Shanghai in 2015, but the shows were cancelled without any explanation from authorities.
    However, rumours said Maroon 5 had been blacklisted because members of the band had met the Dalai Lama. The band’s keyboard player also once tweeted a birthday greeting to the exiled Tibetan leader.

    Bon Jovi

    The veteran American rockers had been preparing for shows in Shanghai and Beijing in 2015 when they were cancelled at the last minute. Authorities didn’t provide any explanation, but observers expect Bon Jovi were banned when officials discovered they had performed in front of a backdrop of the Dalai Lama and band members had tweeted about the exiled Tibetan leader.

    Justin Bieber

    The US pop star “engaged in a series of bad behaviours, both in his social life and during a previous performance in China”, the Ministry of Culture said in announcing Bieber would be unable to perform in China earlier this year.
    Michael Hutchence talks about growing up in Hong Kong, fame and making music in 1994 interview

    Perhaps the ministry was referring to pictures of the US pop star being carried up the Great Wall of China by his bodyguards during his “Behaviour” tour in 2013.
    I'd be okay with banning a few of these here.

    just kidding.
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