Fut Gar Kuen

**hskwarrior** · 09-17-2009, 09:38 AM

**Violent Designs** · 09-17-2009, 10:15 AM

Sweet post can definitely see the connections there.

**hskwarrior** · 09-17-2009, 10:20 AM

yeah, with an open mind....one can see how Fut Ga fits into CLF.

**Ben Gash** · 09-17-2009, 12:06 PM

It's Cantonese Kung Fu, it all looks similar because they have a shared history. Depending on the clip you look at you could say it looks like CLF (1st clip) Choy Gar (that was the big surprise, that second clip really looked like Choy Gar) Mok Gar, Hung Gar or Hark Fu Mun.
However, what's REALLY interesting is the fact that he uses a running horse like in Bak Sing Fut Gar.

**hskwarrior** · 09-17-2009, 12:52 PM

It was a surprise.....and nice to see the connection. We'll see what we'll see and to some it will be different. but from looking at the fut ga clips from my lineages perspective....even my sifu agreed he saw things in there, it's cool to relate to it.

Which clip did you see the running horse in? too many clips to go back over. lol

**Ben Gash** · 09-17-2009, 02:14 PM

In most of them. In about half the instances when you'd use a Ding Ji Ma he uses a running horse.

**bawang** · 09-17-2009, 02:25 PM

choy/ li/ fut is choy ga, li ga, fut ga combined
its in the name of your style

**Ben Gash** · 09-17-2009, 02:43 PM

Originally Posted by bawang

choy/ li/ fut is choy ga, li ga, fut ga combined
its in the name of your style

No, it's the northern Shaolin art of CHOY Fook, the southern family art of LI Yau San, and the southern Shaolin Buddhist or FUT art of Chan Yuen Woo

**bawang** · 09-17-2009, 02:49 PM

thats what i said

?!??!!?!?
choy ga li ga and fut ga

**Ben Gash** · 09-17-2009, 03:07 PM

No, Choy Fook's art was not Choy Gar, it was a northern system, and Chan Yuen Woo's art was not Fut Gar (at least not by our modern understanding) it was a primordial form of Hung Gar (most likely), so you are in fact 1/3rd right

**hskwarrior** · 09-17-2009, 04:49 PM

No, Choy Fook's art was not Choy Gar, it was a northern system, and Chan Yuen Woo's art was not Fut Gar (at least not by our modern understanding) it was a primordial form of Hung Gar (most likely), so you are in fact 1/3rd right

That's according to NON Jeung Hung Sing lineages. Ours will always claim fut ga from Ching Cho. But i get confused, because some chan family sources says that it IS Choy Gar, Lee Gar, and in regards to Chan Fam "FUT" represents Shaolin Roots. In our lineage, its said to be Choy Ga, Lee Ga and Fut Ga (via Ching Cho).

**hskwarrior** · 09-17-2009, 04:57 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4J_PaAfr0k

here's another one i find real interesting.

**Ben Gash** · 09-18-2009, 12:51 AM

Choy Fook is the source of the northern element in CLF, so not Choy Gar. I mean really, does this look like it's part of CLF? (beyond the shared Guandong shaolin elements)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U95U8ndHBYc
It's conceptually very different, whereas you can clearly see it's influence on Jow Gar (which does contain Choy Gar and I think may be the source of some of the confusion).

**hskwarrior** · 09-18-2009, 06:47 AM

So....Lee Yau San....master of Lee Ga didn't teach Lee Ga to Chan Heung?

**Ben Gash** · 09-18-2009, 07:00 AM

How did you arrive there exactly??

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