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    Quote Originally Posted by 1bad65 View Post
    For someone who never answers questions yourself, you sure do like to pose them to others.

    I'm against it because it's socialistic. I have a very good plan through my job. You see, I earned it by working. Now I'll likely be taxed on it to pay for others heathcare.

    What's sad is that the Democrat Party has resorted to literally buying votes by giving people things that are paid for by hard-working Americans.

    Since when did it become a compassionate thing to forcefully take money that one person earned to just give it to someone else who did nothing to earn it?
    You ust work for a large company. Most of my close friends own small companies. If one employee has an expensive procedure, they often have to change insurance, because the plans become too expensive. They all, fortunately, lack employees with permanent conditions, or they, not the insurance company, would have to consider what to do, and be tempted to drop that employee for outside reasons.

    Only large corporations, universities, and such, have reliable policies. If a policy has a small number of people on it, it is only useful in absence of real need. My family mostly work in the medical field, many in insurance claims adjusting, some as doctors, some as nurses, some in accounting for hospitals. They will all tell you exactly what happens to a small policy when you get cancer or a similar condition: they drop you by raising your rates to a degree you won't be able to pay. A working person. The idea that health insurance companies are good for working folk only works for people who don't have real need for health insurance yet.

    There could be reform aside from socialist reforms, but if the only possibility offered by ANYONE is socialist, those who offer status quo have little to complain about.

    Insurance companies are fleecing the working man, not providing the service he paid for. The current system hurts small business, and has been for twenty years, and makes the only practical choice to be working for larger companies, thus stifling American entrepreneurship. Just as banks that cannot fail underscore the weakening of free trade in the U.S., insurance companies that make money off of small business while doing everything possible to avoid providing service comparable to the money they receive for the promise of service take valuable workers out of small businesses and drive them to the big corporate and government jobs.

    Bleh.

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    MK, nice collection of Bible verses there, especially coming from a guy who doesn't believe it.

    Again, charity is voluntary. Not Government mandated giving in those verses.
    When given the choice between big business and big government, choose big business. Big business never threw millions of people into gas chambers, but big government did.

    "It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men" -Samuel Adams

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    Quote Originally Posted by KC Elbows View Post
    You ust work for a large company.
    Not at all. My company employs less than 500 people.

    Quote Originally Posted by KC Elbows View Post
    Only large corporations, universities, and such, have reliable policies.
    Again, I'm just thrilled with mine, and I work for a small, publicly traded company. I'm not sure if my policy is a "Cadillac policy" as described the socialists pushing this bill, but I sure don't want to lose it through no fault of my own.

    Quote Originally Posted by KC Elbows View Post
    There could be reform aside from socialist reforms, but if the only possibility offered by ANYONE is socialist, those who offer status quo have little to complain about.
    If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Face it, for the most part in this country the producers (those who work) have better healthcare than the consumers (those who live off of others). What's wrong with that?
    When given the choice between big business and big government, choose big business. Big business never threw millions of people into gas chambers, but big government did.

    "It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men" -Samuel Adams

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    Just heard this teabagger say that Americans should have access to the same health care that members of congress gets.......

    I'm down with that! Give it to everyone! No problem with that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoulderDawg View Post
    Just heard this teabagger say that Americans should have access to the same health care that members of congress gets.......

    I'm down with that! Give it to everyone! No problem with that!
    LMAO at that. You do know why people are saying that, dont you?
    When given the choice between big business and big government, choose big business. Big business never threw millions of people into gas chambers, but big government did.

    "It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men" -Samuel Adams

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoulderDawg View Post
    Give it to everyone!
    At last something you are consistent on.
    When given the choice between big business and big government, choose big business. Big business never threw millions of people into gas chambers, but big government did.

    "It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men" -Samuel Adams

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    Another sad state of affairs:

    Yesterday Ed Schultz did a live feed from a free medical clinic in Connecticut. Many medical professionals were donating their time and skill to help Americans without health insurance. They even managed to save some lives of people who would soon have died without care.

    The problem was there were teabaggers outside protesting and trying to block people from getting into the clinic........Wow! Simply wow!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoulderDawg View Post
    The problem was there were teabaggers outside protesting and trying to block people from getting into the clinic........Wow! Simply wow!!!!
    Please post a link. Since blocking access to any building is a crime, I'm sure there must have been alot of arrests, right?
    When given the choice between big business and big government, choose big business. Big business never threw millions of people into gas chambers, but big government did.

    "It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men" -Samuel Adams

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    Ed Schultz

    No more trusted name in the industry. He witnessed it first hand.

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    So you have no proof? I figured as much.
    When given the choice between big business and big government, choose big business. Big business never threw millions of people into gas chambers, but big government did.

    "It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men" -Samuel Adams

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1bad65 View Post
    So you have no proof? I figured as much.
    Since when do I need to prove something to a teabagger?
    Take the statement as you like it. All liberals are liars anyway according to you people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drake View Post
    . Like my 1SG said downrange... " Hajji only has to be lucky once... we have to be lucky every day."

    I once kicked a guy out of my class for language like this. It felt really good to not have to tolerate that crap.

    Thanks for the reminder Drake.
    "The first stage is to get the Gang( hard, solid power). every movement should be done with full power and in hard way, also need to get the twisting and wrapping power, whole body's tendon and bones need to be stretched to get the Gang( hard) power. "
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoulderDawg View Post
    Since when do I need to prove something to a teabagger?
    Take the statement as you like it. All liberals are liars anyway according to you people.
    Wow, there's as shameless an evasion as you're going to find this side of sifuabel

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kansuke View Post
    Wow, there's as shameless an evasion as you're going to find this side of sifuabel
    "hello pot, it's kettle, you are black black black" *click*



    Kung Fu is good for you.

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    being a hippie

    http://www.armscontrolcenter.org/pol...equest_global/

    The US spent over 700 billion on defense spending in 2008, I'm trying to find an update - anyway, China is our nearest competitor at 122 billion.

    What would diverting... say 1 or 2% of our defense spending into something like healthcare do?

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