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    That 'Neo' in the 23rd New York Congressional District is going to win that race.

    And the Republicans are gonna win the Governor's race in Virginia by a good margin. Remember, in November Obama won in Virginia.

    And the New Jersey Governor's race is close. Corzine, the incumbent Democrat who made $400 million from his stock in Goldman Sachs (where he was a CEO) in 1999, is running a close race. His opponent is a former United States DA. Funny, I thought the Neo Republicans were the super rich guys who ran companies into the ground yet kept all the money ???
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    When given the choice between big business and big government, choose big business. Big business never threw millions of people into gas chambers, but big government did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1bad65 View Post
    That 'Neo' in the 23rd New York Congressional District is going to win that race.
    Man do I hope so!

    Several things going on here:

    This candidate is radical neo right big time. The more moderate GOP candidate was kicked out on her ear in this race. I hope this guy wins. Let's the radicals take over the party. Or better yet let them try to get a foothold with this "Conservative Party". It's all good either way. Anytime you have the Neo moving further and further to the right that can only be good as far as the power they hold in Washington goes.

    Also, Sarah Palin bet her entire political career on this race. If the guy wins it will probably establish her as the front runner and power in the party. As a liberal I can't think of anyone else I'd rather have running against Obama. Tell me where to contribute to her campaign!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoulderDawg View Post
    Man do I hope so!
    That makes two of us.

    Quote Originally Posted by BoulderDawg View Post
    This candidate is radical neo right big time. The more moderate GOP candidate was kicked out on her ear in this race. I hope this guy wins. Let's the radicals take over the party. Or better yet let them try to get a foothold with this "Conservative Party". It's all good either way. Anytime you have the Neo moving further and further to the right that can only be good as far as the power they hold in Washington goes.
    How is he a radical? He has pledged not to raise taxes, is anti-gay marriage, and is anti-abortion. Those are generally what Republicans run on. He is also for sending more troops to Afghanistan.

    The ex-Republican nominee is a liberal. Period. She is for gay marriage, has repeatedly voted for tax increases, and is pro-abortion. I'm confused as to why she didn't run as a Democrat in the first place.

    Quote Originally Posted by BoulderDawg View Post
    Also, Sarah Palin bet her entire political career on this race. If the guy wins it will probably establish her as the front runner and power in the party. As a liberal I can't think of anyone else I'd rather have running against Obama. Tell me where to contribute to her campaign!
    She did??? Can you prove that? FYI, George Pataki, Fred Thompson, Tim Pawlenty, and Dick Armey are among prominent Republicans who back Hoffman. Are they 'going all in' as well? And Mrs Palin isn't running for any office, so I'm not sure how you would contribute to a non-existant campaign.

    And as for Obama, his poll numbers are hovering around 50%, and have fallen below 50% in a few states he won in the election. His approval numbers were between 60%-70% just a few months ago.
    When given the choice between big business and big government, choose big business. Big business never threw millions of people into gas chambers, but big government did.

    "It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men" -Samuel Adams

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1bad65 View Post
    She did??? Can you prove that? FYI, George Pataki, Fred Thompson, Tim Pawlenty, and Dick Armey are among prominent Republicans who back Hoffman. Are they 'going all in' as well? And Mrs Palin isn't running for any office, so I'm not sure how you would contribute to a non-existant campaign.
    To start with if you are telling me that Palin is not going to run then you don't know anything about politics.

    As far as the others go: Pawlenty is running...that's obvious . The rest of those guys are just neos with a lot of money and power.

    Bad, I think you should get on the Palin bandwagon right now! Help her win the White House!


    Also, considering how her daughters like to party I might pay a visit to the WH myself when she wins!

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    I would have to argue, 1Bad, that anyone supporting a troop increase in Afghanistan lacks a fundamental understanding of the nature of their conflict.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoulderDawg View Post
    To start with if you are telling me that Palin is not going to run then you don't know anything about politics.

    As far as the others go: Pawlenty is running...that's obvious . The rest of those guys are just neos with a lot of money and power.

    Bad, I think you should get on the Palin bandwagon right now! Help her win the White House!

    Also, considering how her daughters like to party I might pay a visit to the WH myself when she wins!
    Didn't you just post the other day about name-calling? Dude, wtf do Palin's kids have to do with the topic at hand? Please tell us.

    As to her running, I have no idea. I'm not an advisor to her or Mr Pawlenty. I guess you must know though. After all, we've all seen how you can't even observe the obvious, what with you thinking that some lying white dude is an Indian and all.

    As to who I vote for, I actually like to wait and see who actually runs. It's kind of common sense, which is why I had to type it out for you. I'm fairly certain I will vote for the most conservative candidate who runs though, I just have no idea of who will be running in the next election which is 3 friggin years away. Of course you seem to already know who all is running....
    When given the choice between big business and big government, choose big business. Big business never threw millions of people into gas chambers, but big government did.

    "It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men" -Samuel Adams

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drake View Post
    I would have to argue, 1Bad, that anyone supporting a troop increase in Afghanistan lacks a fundamental understanding of the nature of their conflict.
    I would think (and I may be wrong), that he said that to show he is not for the liberal 'cut and run' strategy or the Obama 'diddle-daddle' strategy.
    When given the choice between big business and big government, choose big business. Big business never threw millions of people into gas chambers, but big government did.

    "It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men" -Samuel Adams

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1bad65 View Post
    I would think (and I may be wrong), that he said that to show he is not for the liberal 'cut and run' strategy or the Obama 'diddle-daddle' strategy.
    Cut and run? Are you serious? I strongly suggest you read more into COIN ops, historic COIN warfare, and what some of our commanders are saying on the ground. You can't just drop 40k troops into a hostile country with absolutely no idea of what to do with them. You know what they become? IED magnets.

    COIN sucks, because all the Taliban have to do is outlast us, and they've shown they can last for as long as it takes, even if takes decades or longer. You really need to read "Learning How to Eat Soup With a Knife", by Ret. LTC John a Nagl. He documents how the "Mongolian Horde" logic versus unconventional warfare failed Britain numerous times.

    To put more of my troops' lives on the line for the sake of being contrary to the President is f&^*ing heinous, pardon my language.
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    Whoa Whoa!

    I didn't say what you think I said. When I used the term 'cut and run', I referring to the liberals who want to just leave Iraq and Afghanistan. I've also never said that just increasing the troop count is the answer.

    I'm no expert on our military, and I don't claim to be. I will say I feel the best policy is to listen to the military leaders/commanders and go from there. I do however think that Obama's indecision, and the other liberals calling for us to pack up and leave, are emboldening the enemy.
    When given the choice between big business and big government, choose big business. Big business never threw millions of people into gas chambers, but big government did.

    "It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men" -Samuel Adams

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    And as to BD acting as if conservatives are some sort of poison pill, look at history.

    Reagan won TWO landslide elections running as a conservative. Clinton had to run as a moderate to win, heck he even executed a retarded guy to try and appear to be a law and order type and appeal to pro-death penalty voters. George W Bush ran as a 'compassionate conservative' and won twice. McCain ran as a moderate and lost pretty badly. Heck, Obama is a friggin socialist, and yet he had to run as a 'progressive' or 'moderate'. The last guy to openly run as a liberal in the general election was Mondale, and he suffered the worst Presidential election defeat in American history.

    If conservatives are so reviled, and the country is so liberal, why does a liberal ALWAYS run as a moderate if he wants to win?
    When given the choice between big business and big government, choose big business. Big business never threw millions of people into gas chambers, but big government did.

    "It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men" -Samuel Adams

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1bad65 View Post
    Whoa Whoa!

    I didn't say what you think I said. When I used the term 'cut and run', I referring to the liberals who want to just leave Iraq and Afghanistan. I've also never said that just increasing the troop count is the answer.

    I'm no expert on our military, and I don't claim to be. I will say I feel the best policy is to listen to the military leaders/commanders and go from there. I do however think that Obama's indecision, and the other liberals calling for us to pack up and leave, are emboldening the enemy.
    I'm talking about what you said about the conservative candidate. It IS time for us to leave Iraq, though.

    I don't think politicians are good judges of how to wage a war. They fall prey to the basics of Mao's philosophy, where they get the enemy to cave into political pressure. This happened during our occupation of the Phillipines, only they weren't as successful.

    On the same token, we aren't approaching A'stan properly. I think we should look to how Morocco handled their insurgency, which has now basically collapsed. The answer doesn't lie in machismo "we'll kill em all" or "send 100k troops NOW!".
    The weakest of all weak things is a virtue that has not been tested in the fire.
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    Everyone has a plan until they’ve been hit.
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    A warrior may choose pacifism; others are condemned to it.
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    "Ninja can HURT the Spartan, but the Spartan can KILL the Ninja"

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1bad65 View Post
    And as to BD acting as if conservatives are some sort of poison pill, look at history.

    Reagan won TWO landslide elections running as a conservative. Clinton had to run as a moderate to win, heck he even executed a retarded guy to try and appear to be a law and order type and appeal to pro-death penalty voters. George W Bush ran as a 'compassionate conservative' and won twice. McCain ran as a moderate and lost pretty badly. Heck, Obama is a friggin socialist, and yet he had to run as a 'progressive' or 'moderate'. The last guy to openly run as a liberal in the general election was Mondale, and he suffered the worst Presidential election defeat in American history.

    If conservatives are so reviled, and the country is so liberal, why does a liberal ALWAYS run as a moderate if he wants to win?
    I don't recall saying anything about liberalism being a popularity contest. I've said here on many occasions I don't vote because there is no one out there liberal enough to vote. Also, you can count the number of liberals in Washington on one hand.

    But I'm all for it. If you guys think that extreme radical neo policy is how to go then more power to ya! I say go as far right as you can. Let the people judge you.

    The real difference between a liberal and a conservative is that the liberal does not have the thrist for power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoulderDawg View Post
    But I'm all for it. If you guys think that extreme radical neo policy is how to go then more power to ya! I say go as far right as you can. Let the people judge you.
    Once again I ask, what makes Doug Hoffman an "extreme radical neo"?

    Quote Originally Posted by BoulderDawg View Post
    The real difference between a liberal and a conservative is that the liberal does not have the thrist for power.
    LMAO at that one. If you believe that, you're even dumber than I thought. But hey, getting fooled by people is something that tends to happen to you alot.
    When given the choice between big business and big government, choose big business. Big business never threw millions of people into gas chambers, but big government did.

    "It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men" -Samuel Adams

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    How is it that a Neo-Con or full blown Conservative is considered a radical but that moniker is never applied to liberals? the conservative is for small, non intrusive government, low taxes how is that radical?

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    HA! Sarah Palin recorded a message for the voters in Virginia to vote for good ole family values...

    That lady kills me! I love her idea of family values. Having your daughters running wild with no controls whatsoever. This kids that was was f'ing the oldest daughter is a trip! I can't wait to hear what he has to say about Sarah. I wouldn't be at all surprised if he didn't knock off a piece of that himself.
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