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    Where Shaolin Promoters hide the bodies...

    Here's an odd one for the Shaolin rumor mill.

    Does anyone remember the Masters of Shaolin Tour that came to the MGM Grand in 2000? The promoter was a man named Gerhard Perner, and now he's in a bit of controversy with his new SF show, The Universe Within. This is a display human cadavers, artfully positioned and preserved using a plasticizing method. Well, the bodies are leaking, and it's brought a lot of attention to Mr. Perner, who can't seem to come up with good answers about where and how he got the bodies in the first place. Obvously, they came from China. He claimed that he got them through some Chinese medical university, but that university is denying any knowledge of the fact. Check out the story here. Perner is Austrian, and anyone who follows Shaolin in Europe knows that Austria led the world with its Shaolin Monk tours. Those were from a different promoter team of Fecther, Hartmann and Jian. Perner's tour was a copycat tour, in essence, the same as what he is being accused off with his current cadaver tour. I reported on the original Austrian tour in an ezine article. I didn't report on Masters of Shaolin because that tour was short lived. I met with Perner when he was in Las Vegas. One of the monks who came on tour to the MGM was a student of my master. I have some Masters of Shaolin gear - samples of products that Perner was trying to market. He was an odd character - but we did have a nice chat.

    It always amazes me how some people will look upon Shaolin shows and not pay attention to the promoters. It's that kind of attitude that has allowed Clear Channel to ruin the American music scene....ah but I digress. I've met with the other Austrian promoters - they took very good care of my master when he stayed with them. I believe that Abbot Shi Yongxin is trying to shut their shows down legally, but I always thought that Fecther, Hartmann and Jian did some of the best shows ever.

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    Talking about copycats. Isn't this show a copycat of "Body Worlds" that is/was exhibited in LA?

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    . . . "mom, someone stole my dead body collection!"

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    Gunther van Hagens

    You're talking about Body Worlds which is still touring. Check out Gunther - I hate to be judgemental, but he looks like the kind of guy who would make sculpture from human cadavers....
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    Isn't Dracula from Austria? That would explain all the bodies.

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    um, i am curious as to how one's corporeal shell becomes the property of the artist. Doesn't it strike anyone as a bit odd that an artist can go and get a cadaver of some recently deceased person, skin it, cover it with a polymer, pose it and take it on tour?

    These people had lives and names and all that. Is there any mention of who they were in life?

    Seems a bit murky on the legal level to me, and only slightly macabre though fascinating to be sure.
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    so the guy killed all thsoe monks in the short lived show and is displaying their cadavers? sick!
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    Shaolin vs. Evil Dead

    Someday, I must visit the Shaolin Temples of Austria...
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    Papahz!

    Do you haf zee papahs!?

    Ah, very good zen mr.Ching, you may enter zee Austrian Shaolin Temple.

    Please refrain from touching the corpsez.

    zank you.

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    Dear Esteemed Readers:

    It appears that they've found a shiny new way to preserve Shao-Lin culture. And it sounds as though that people are just dying to get into the exhibit.

    Now pass me some farver beans and a nice bottle of Chianti.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeneChing
    It always amazes me how some people will look upon Shaolin shows and not pay attention to the promoters. It's that kind of attitude that has allowed Clear Channel to ruin the American music scene....ah but I digress.

    like everything else, venerable student, clear channel is just one bandit in the horde. likewise with this cadaver guy: he probably ran a bootleg shaolin show and came up with the cadaver show while paying off the previous performers...or signing them for another gig.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David Jamieson
    um, i am curious as to how one's corporeal shell becomes the property of the artist. Doesn't it strike anyone as a bit odd that an artist can go and get a cadaver of some recently deceased person, skin it, cover it with a polymer, pose it and take it on tour?
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    well, grasshopper, welcome to the world of legalese and entertainment:
    "...nor any likeness or derivative of the performance..." clause just overcome.

    "simple: you'll be in my show wheather you like it or not" statement fulfilled.

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    Real Bodies...


    ‘Real Bodies’ in UK anatomical exhibition could be executed Chinese prisoners, says doctor

    The 20 skinless bodies, sourced via Dalian Medical University, have prompted calls for an investigation
    The Guardian
    Published: 12:47pm, 9 Aug, 2018


    Human remains are seen at the “Real Bodies” exhibition in Sydney, Australia, in April. The travelling anatomical show is currently in Birmingham in Britain. Photo: EPA

    The bodies of 20 people featured in a UK museum exhibition could be those of Chinese prisoners once detained in labour camps, and recipients of the death penalty in China, according to a leading doctor.
    The Real Bodies exhibition, currently at the Birmingham NEC, publicly displays the skinless preserved Chinese bodies. But there are now calls for an investigation into their identities and cause of death to be held while they are in the UK.
    The bodies were provided to the event organisers, Imagine Exhibitions, through the Dalian Medical University in China.
    Campaigner Dr David Nicholl, a consultant neurologist at City Hospital Birmingham, said that the university’s facilities in the city of Dalian were within driving distance of labour and prison camps.


    An attendant cleans an exhibit at the “Real Bodies” anatomical show in Sydney, in April. The travelling show is currently in Birmingham in Britain. Photo: EPA
    I have huge questions about why all these unclaimed bodies come from Dalian in sizeable numbers and how many bodies Imagine Exhibitions have actually got
    Dr David Nicholl, City Hospital Birmingham
    Coupled with the large number of bodies of the same age and gender, and the lack of any identity information, Nicholl suspects the bodies could be those of executed inmates.
    “I have huge questions about why all these unclaimed bodies come from Dalian in sizeable numbers and how many bodies Imagine Exhibitions have actually got,” he said.
    “My own registrar went to this exhibition. I asked him to note down the gender and age of the bodies. They are all young men – none of them are elderly, which I have to say is pretty suspicious given that there are a number of labour camps within a matter of hours’ drive of Dalian.
    “If you look at these exhibitions they are never gender balanced – it’s always largely men. Most people who die, die when they’re older, so to have an exhibition like this is really suspicious.”
    Nicholl says event organisers were never given consent by individuals or their families for the bodies to be used.
    “I think the public are being conned,” he said.
    “Why are we having exhibitions like this in this country if they can’t prove consent?”
    Israel banned the exhibition in 2012 in a decision taken by judges in the Israeli Supreme Court, said Nicholl.


    Human remains are seen at the “Real Bodies” exhibition in Sydney, Australia, in April. The travelling anatomical show is currently in Birmingham in Britain. Photo: EPA
    I refuse to entertain these ridiculous accusations without a shred of evidence to back these baseless claims
    Tom Zaller, president of Imagine Exhibitions
    US investigative reporter and author Ethan Gutmann also alleges that the bodies in the exhibition could be political prisoners who practised Falun Gong, a religion banned in China in the late 90s.
    This move is thought to have resulted in thousands of people being imprisoned and executed in labour camps.
    Gutmann believes that one of the places bodies of persecuted people may have been taken to was Dalian Medical University, as it is in the same province as Masanjia labour camp, one of the largest camps in China “specialising in Falun Gong”.
    “It’s a crime against humanity,” he said.
    “Several hundred thousand people were executed purely for being Falun Gong and you have a company which is potentially sending evidence all over the world.”
    Nicholl and Guttman are among the doctors, human rights activists, MPs and Lords who have signed a letter to Theresa May stating that the exhibition should be shut down.
    Guttman says he hopes the specimens will be DNA tested.
    “The DNA can be extracted and used to prove relations,” he said. “If we make some matches, we can identify family lines and you could ask them, do you have a missing person?
    “People in England have a right to know what they are seeing and people in China have a right to know what happened to their loved ones.”


    Human remains are seen at the “Real Bodies” exhibition in Sydney, Australia, in April. The travelling anatomical show is currently in Birmingham in Britain. Photo: EPA

    The Dalian Medical University released a statement in response saying: “All of these specimens are unclaimed bodies and are legally authorised to be received by the city morgue.
    “The specimens that are being presented in Real Bodies: The Exhibition were originally received from the city morgue and then transferred to medical universities in China and ultimately were legally donated to Dalian Hoffen Bio-Technique Laboratory for preservation, dissection and exhibition.”
    The statement rejected allegations that the specimens died of unnatural causes, detailing that following inspection “there is absolutely no evidence” that they “received trauma or physical abuse associated with torture, execution or other violent injury”.
    The president of Imagine Exhibitions, Tom Zaller, called the suspicions about the bodies “fake news”.
    “I refuse to entertain these ridiculous accusations without a shred of evidence to back these baseless claims,” he said.
    The exhibition includes more than 200 human organs, foetuses and body parts, also sourced from China, and has already been viewed by millions around the world.

    This article appeared in the South China Morning Post print edition as: bodies on show ‘could be executed prisoners’
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