Diabeties Treatment Suggestions

[Sihing73]

Hello,

Was curious about any TCM treatments for Type 2 Diabeties. Know someone who has no interest in medication or major lifestyle changes. Curious if any Internal Arts might be good to treat diabeties. Not sure if this person is in denial or they just don't care but thought I would seek out some suggestions to offer. This person was also diagnosed with Melenoma about 1 1/2 years ago as well and afaik has done nothing about that either. They say they feel fine and are not worried about it but I am not so sure.

Any suggestions would be appreciated as to internal arts practice or TCM.

[pbrady]

From "Healing with Whole Foods;;Oriental traditions and modern nutrition


Foods Commonly used in the treatment of diabetes

GRAINS AN LEGUMES
millet,ricesweet rice'oats,freshcorn, hole wheat and its bran,tofu and soy products,mung bean, garbanzo bean


VEGETABLES AND FRUITS
string bean,carrot,radish,jerusalem artichoke,turnip,asparagus,yam,spinach,avacodo,pea r,plum,lemon,grapfruit,lime,blueberry, blackberry

CHLOROPHYLL FOODS
wheat or barley grass,spirulina,chlorella,liquid chlorophyll

HERBS
dandelion root and leaf,cedar berries,yarrow fowers,blueberyy/huckleberry leaf

SWEETENERS
licorice tea or powder,stevia powder or extract

ANIMAL PRODUCTS
clam,albalon,
cows milk,yogurt,
pancreas of lambpork,beef,or fowl
lamb kidney
chicken or goose
beef

hope this helps

[Lee Chiang Po]

Type 2 diabetes is a relative newcomer on the scene. Around 1900 it was rare but by 1950 it was getting common. It was called Adult onset diabetes. Now it is starting to become common among young children. It has been directly connected to the use of processed sugars. There was a time when the only sugars that people used might have been in coffee or tea. Today it is in everything. A regular can of soda can have up to 14 teaspoons of processed sugar in them. I know people that drink near a case of them every day. Consumption of processed sugar is up to the hundreds of pounds per year by most everyone. If you juiced out a bathtub full of sugar cane and reduced it down to raw sugar you would not be able to equal the sugar in a single soda. So you should get your sugar from fruit. Certainly you couldn't eat that much sugar cane. Certain things tend to spike your insulin, which turns the sugars to triglycerides and dropping the blood sugar low. Then you have to consume more sugars and the see-saw up and down of sugar and insulin can lead to type 2 diabetes. I am sure that there are medical terms concerning all this, but I like common terms. There have been people that actually stablized their sugar/insulin levels simply through diet. Not eating processed sugar and products that contain it. Maybe even avoiding foods that spike your insulin. My own doctor told me that I was borderline, but I changed it by cutting out all processed sugars. My blood sugars are back to normal now.
There is a thread about qigong and health that might be of interest to you as well. If he were my friend I think I would badger him into seeing someone concerning the cancer.

[mawali]

Hello,

Was curious about any TCM treatments for Type 2 Diabeties. Know someone who has no interest in medication or major lifestyle changes. Curious if any Internal Arts might be good to treat diabeties. Not sure if this person is in denial or they just don't care but thought I would seek out some suggestions to offer. This person was also diagnosed with Melenoma about 1 1/2 years ago as well and afaik has done nothing about that either. They say they feel fine and are not worried about it but I am not so sure.

Any suggestions would be appreciated as to internal arts practice or TCM.

When you treat a disease by the root, the disease can be controlled.
There are medications that can control type 2 but there must also be lifestyle and dietary changes.

SOME IDEAS:
1. Walking is better than paying money to learn internal arts. Internal arts would not be of sufficient intensity for type 2 diabetes (adult onset) but it is gentle enough for relaxation purposes.

[PlumDragon]

Know someone who has no interest in medication or major lifestyle changes.

You cant help someone who doesnt want to help themselves...People have to contemplate the issues and come to the conclusion that change is necessary on their own.

Many cases of Type II diabetes can be eradicated by simply getting into a low-moderate intensity cardio program.

[Hendrik]

This is a good practical book to read if you are serious about healing the body. in fact all Qigong share the same silence before the body can response. Prayer is much better and easy to learn then Qigong and yield good result.

I have tried them all and recomemed anyone who is serious going the prayer path. You dont have to be religious. But Learning what is forgive and how to forgive and how to do proper prayer is a must.

Sure, we can reach this same state with Qigong too. But that need a coach where we in the west doesnt have access to.

So,

Check out the following, and infact after you learn how to do prayer, that silence state is what you need to get in when you practice Qigong. So, doing prayer is a short cut and a safe one to develop the Qigong state.

The following are some resource I have tried it myself. They are real. the rest is just you need to spend time to practice.

Best wishes on your journey.


http://www.amazon.com/Reclaiming-You...148289&sr=1-11

http://www.learnoutloud.com/Catalog/...Medicine/17510

http://www.amazon.com/Prayer-Five-St...6147073&sr=8-4

[Sihing73]

Thank you to everyone who has replied. I am going to check out some of the resources mentioned.

We will see what the result will be, the person needing this is a bit stubborn and strong willed, which could be a good thing in the end.

Thanks again.

[herb ox]

Hmmm. Interesting replies. I mostly have to agree with PlumDragon, as someone who is not interested in making life changes will generally have no compliance and will not take what has been prescribed, whether herbs, medicines or exercise.

Hendrick, while not necessarily appealing to the atheistic crowd, may be on to something. By starting with a mental process such as prayer or meditation, the "field" is tilled and fertilized so that new, constructive behaviors can grow. Often, it is the other way around. People start doing martial arts, for example, for self-defense, but wind up pursuing good diet and lifestyle in the process, to reach the next level, or simply because they have a realization.

People are funny. They're afraid to take the western meds. They don't like bitter herbs. They don't believe in acupuncture. They refuse to exercise and think meditation is for sissies. Yet, they want to get better... by some magical, effortless process. By that standard, death is the only remedy

food for thought

herb ox

[Hendrik]

Hendrick, while not necessarily appealing to the atheistic crowd, may be on to something. By starting with a mental process such as prayer or meditation, the "field" is tilled and fertilized so that new, constructive behaviors can grow. Often, it is the other way around. People start doing martial arts, for example, for self-defense, but wind up pursuing good diet and lifestyle in the process, to reach the next level, or simply because they have a realization.

There are something beyond thinking, unless we get into this realm, we have no handling on lots of things.


A human has layer and layers of reality.

The two basic layers we can aware and have immediate handling are the physical , breathing, and Mental.


It is more easy to handle the physical and Mental layer,
The breathing layer comes after the physical and Mental layer.

When the physcial, Mental, and breathing layers can be properly handle the Zhen Qi layer will surface.


Thus, for all internal art, if the first 3 layers could not be handle then the Zhen Qi will not surface and the benifit of Qigong will be limited.


With deeper cultivation/ practice then the Awareness as in Zen will surface. That is the fifth layer in fact it is not the fifth layer but the energy which transform into all the layers before it.

Thus, a Zen master or a Daoist or a follower of Christ, Buddha.... who truely practice knows all of these five disregards what they call it.




Thus, when we speak about healing everything count. if one can have good handling on all the 4 layers then healling is possible. if one can have indepth handling on all the 4 layers then healing is certain.


While doing prayer or qigong...etc all of the five layers are activate in the same time. doing it properly will get one deep into it. however, if one doesnt have the proper instruction or the process then one might not even enter into the cultivation disregards of 10000000000 years of practice.

IE: as in prayer, if one cant forgive, then while at the prayer the emotion of un forgiveness surface and one will get pull out of the prayer and fall into the hell of burning vengence.
Thus, with this case, one can do 100000000000 years of prayer but never really get too far because the prayer cant penetrate the unforgiving emotion.



Certainly, physical layer influence is very drastic to physical because that is a direct impact.
Thus, even if one is practice internal art, until on can neutralized the effect of physical impact, food intake was taken really carefully.




Unless one has all the above knowledge, learning a martial art or doing some taiji actuall doesnt do much.

[Lee Chiang Po]

My old mamma Jude used to tell me to pray in one hand and dump in the other and see which one gets full first. All this is a form of mysticism and will not harm or cure anyone. One must address the problems themselves. Type 2 diabetes is an auto immune system disease. That should tell you something. And it is almost completely diet related.
As for the cancer, I think you need to consider that with a bit more than mysticism. I think it takes a great deal more consideration.