talking about hypocracy in kung fu: shaolin monks in america banging sexy white women

[sanjuro_ronin]

Greatly improved...

[Lucas]

no

thats from the movie shaolin temple starring jet li. shaolin monks never saved the tang emperor

in order to appease the warlord li shimin the shaolin monks ambushed and killed a rival warlord m in order to gain political favours with him.
li shiming had a signature on a rock but i never heard of him saying shaolin monks can eat meat
imperial order in song dynasty is if a soldier gets injured during training he is awarded 10 pounds of tofu

oh i dont know. ive never seen that movie. this is just what i learned watching the shaolin wheel of time show, and reading books. i should watch that movie though, i hear its good.

[SPJ]

Shaolin is an over 1000 year old temple.

sometimes flourished, sometimes perished.

it is the place where chan buddhism started. then migrated to korea, japan, vietnam, and now north america.

kung fu is a side show. the spread of chan buddhism is the main thing.

it can also be a cultual theme.

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[SPJ]

all the beauty pageant and wushu schools nearby

are really side shows to attract tourism.

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cough" spread of chan buddhism" cough

is the real theme.

[SPJ]

Shaolin most recent destruction was by a warlord.

the temple was used as headquarter to fight among warlords.

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[David Jamieson]

Ch'an has spread and is practiced worldwide.

I don't think the purpose of Shaolin is any longer to spread Ch'an.

It is definitely not their focus. And in modern day terms, it was certainly not the Shaolin who have actively been spreading zen.

Ironically that honour belongs to the japanese.

[SanHeChuan]

I have found through personal experience that teh best teachers are the ones who lead you to a mirror that allows you to see yourself for what you really are.

Psychological studies show Depressed people have a more accurate view of themselves. Ignorance is bliss.

[David Jamieson]

Psychological studies show Depressed people have a more accurate view of themselves. Ignorance is bliss.

well, depressed people are more aware of objective reality as well.


So, it follows that they would be depressed after a better understanding of that reality in context to modern living.

who wouldn't be a little depressed about it?

[bawang]

if you stop looking for fictitious character from wuxia novels, I'll stop lookin for superman. lol

what u read ancient wuxia novels

[David Jamieson]

what u read ancient wuxia novels

I am saying that the idea you are putting out is blurry.

there are no martial heroes who are righteous and upright.

there are only humans, who have their failings no matter who they are.

[bawang]

I am saying that the idea you are putting out is blurry.

there are no martial heroes who are righteous and upright.

sry i made a typo i meant to type have u read ancient wuxia novels

this isnt about if its right or wrong its about being honest

if you claim ur a buddhist monk and you bang women thats dumb, im just sick of hearing people trying to justify it

[Iron_Eagle_76]

I am saying that the idea you are putting out is blurry.

there are no martial heroes who are righteous and upright.

there are only humans, who have their failings no matter who they are.

Agreed. Film and novels do not tell the real story of the shaolin because it would not be nearly as interesting. One of the major problems that plagues our society is that we like to look through jaded lenses and see what we want to rather than what is really there. If you watch any cheap reality show on television now, it is all the same formula. Crappy and sappy drama written to look real even though anyone with a working brain can figure out it's not.

I think this is a problem not only in Kung Fu, but other traditional arts as well. A martial art should not teach you self control, discipline, manners, and above all morals. This is the job of parenting. Too often people put stock in how enlightened and moral a Kung Fu practioner or any other martial artist is, seemingly forgetting this person is human. Ignorant teachings and false dogma produce arrogance and elitism, which ironically, is completley the opposite of what the perceived notion of a TMA practioner should be. We as humans do what we do out of instinct and impulse, nothing more, nothing less.

[GeneChing]

...not that we haven't had our share of flame wars there lately.

More wood for the fire, I say.

[bawang]

hey geneching

ur bald

lol

i think a lot of people in china join shaolin to make money and is focused on money only

[GeneChing]

You'd think people would be more clever. If I wanted to make money, I'd go into banking, not Shaolin.