Is Southern Praying Mantis the same style as "phoenix eye fist" kung fu/Chukka?

[sanjuro_ronin]

the frustrating thing is, I can't seem to be able to find out anything about Sam Dart's Gung-Fu. What was it before it evolved into Mantis?
It's like Adam and Eve, rather than Darwin.
(jeez, now I'm gonna pizz off the Christians!)

Dude, does it matter?
Truly?
In the end YOUR SPM will not be your sifu's SPM, juts like his wasn't his sifu's and so forth.
Can you make it work for yourself?
All the you bring into SPM will effect your SPM, the core may still be "recognizable" but the "style" may not be.
And there is nothing wrong with that.
Lineage? BAH !
Effectiveness.

[TenTigers]

Dude, does it matter?
Truly?
.

Hey, I couldn't care if my teacher made it up yesterday. It is truly an amazing system.
I just like digging. It's like finding old recordings of Elmore James to hear the beginnings of what influenced Clapton and Duane Allmann.
It's for my own curiosity, enrichment and enjoyment.

Also, it may unravel some other mysteries about my Hung Kuen. Just connecting the "Dots"

[sanjuro_ronin]

Hey, I couldn't care if my teacher made it up yesterday. It is truly an amazing system.
I just like digging. It's like finding old recordings of Elmore James to hear the beginnings of what influenced Clapton and Duane Allmann.
It's for my own curiosity, enrichment and enjoyment.

Also, it may unravel some other mysteries about my Hung Kuen. Just connecting the "Dots"

I understand that, but it may be an exercise in futility, oral traditions are dubious at best and can be outright lies at worse.
Unless we invent a time machine, we will never know for sure.
I am pretty sure there was a core system that the southern systems came from, perhaps a couple even, but the simple fact that other styles developed their own "flavour" should tell us a great deal.