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    Shaolin vs. Muay Thai

    They should take up the challenge. They could win if they fight sanda rules. They'll lose if they fight Muay Thai, but then anyone would.
    Thai fighters eye Shaolin
    By Wang Jingqiong (China Daily)
    Updated: 2009-12-01 07:59

    The Shaolin Temple may have sidestepped a challenge to Chinese kungfu, but another prominent school has stepped in to pick up the gauntlet.

    Five famous professional Thai Boxers offered a challenge, claiming that they wanted to "wipe out the Shaolin Temple".

    "Shaolin kungfu is a lie by these monks to Chinese Buddhists, and Chinese kungfu is nothing compared with ours," said one of the five Thai boxers who is ready to take on masters from the famous temple.

    "If they accept our challenge, we'll win 5 to 0."

    But Shaolin responded by saying the provocative words were "ridiculous", refusing to reply to the "secular challenge".

    Zheng Shumin from Shaolin Temple said the temple is a holy Buddhist place where monks' primary concern is Zen practice and they would not get into contests with secular people.

    "We receive so many challenges like this every year, we just don't want to reply," Zheng said. "We think this is hype from the Thai boxers and the organizers of the competition."

    "In the history of Shaolin Temple, we never challenge or agree to fight others," said Zheng.

    However, followers of Emei kungfu, another important school of martial arts in China, considers this a challenge that "any kungfu practitioner with a sense of justice should face."

    Wang Jian, director of the Emei Martial Arts Association, and his senior disciple Huang Lin, entered the contest "to let the Thai boxers know that Chinese kungfu is never easy to beat."

    "I couldn't bear it anymore ... after the public and all my fellow disciples urged me to show them real Chinese kungfu," Wang said.

    "This is not only disrespectful to Chinese kungfu, it is also disrespectful to our nation," said Zhang Ji from Emei Martial Arts Association.

    "As disciples of kungfu, whether from Shaolin, Emei, Wudang, or anywhere else, we should stand up to such defiance," he said.

    The five boxers from Thailand will be in China for the contest on Dec 19 in Foshan, Guangdong province, the hometown of late action star Bruce Lee.
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    god i hope the kung fu boys mop the floor with mt on that day

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    Quote Originally Posted by goju View Post
    god i hope the kung fu boys mop the floor with mt on that day
    Those boys are just talking stuff. They may never be seen or heard from again after this contest. They need to toss away all the rules except that you can't deliberately kill your opponent. Mui Thai is just a funky form of kick boxing where you stand to be injured by yourself as much as by your opponent.

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    "In the history of Shaolin Temple, we never challenge or agree to fight others,"
    BBBWAAAHAHAHAHAH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Now, that was funny !!
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    werent the shaolin monks a bunch of bandits originally lol

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    I thought that Shaolin Temple had guys there that they refer to as "fighting monks"? On the other hand, I also thought not everyone who trains (trained) there was a monk. They should take up the challenge. Though I'd still bet on the Thais, esp. if they are top professionals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee Chiang Po View Post
    Mui Thai is just a funky form of kick boxing where you stand to be injured by yourself as much as by your opponent.
    If you ever want some insight to the true depth of Muay Thai technique & strategy, I'm just right down the road.
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    It's practically certain that the truckman would be knocked unconscious. He might die of brain concussion or a broken neck.
    Even an innocent little baby can become a dangerous missile WHEN ITS BODY-WEIGHT IS SET INTO FAST MOTION.
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    he does have some what of a point though

    id rather learn muay thai boran its more complete of a style

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    Quote Originally Posted by goju View Post
    he does have some what of a point though

    id rather learn muay thai boran its more complete of a style
    Actually most legit camps have some old bareknuckle techniques still mixed in; for example Sit Yodtong in Thailand is not only one of the top camps for ring muay thai, but their traditional muay thai is spot on as well.
    My gym teaches mae mai muay thai chaiya in addition to ring muay thai.
    I tend to be a bit wary of folks that teach the traditional/bareknuckle muay thai in isolation anymore.

    The muay boran most people think of is really just a performance art any more.


    Tony Jaa's movie created a whole generation of folks who want to learn "t3h r3@l l33t d3@dly muay thai", which usually ends up only being those techniques that are d@mn near impossible to pull off.

    Traditional techniques pay more in muay thai ring fights, so if they were that effective you'd think these starving fighters (who get paid less than boxing or mma fighters get out of bed for) would be pulling these techniques off all the time.

    Making bad generalizations about muay thai just coz you read it in a magazine or online somewhere is just as bad as making bad generalizations about kung fu. In this case it's even worse than a lot of the "anti-kung fu bias" you complain about on these boards, because it's done with absolutely no first-hand experience.

    You also get knucklheads like this chuckled!ck who makes up some phony bs to discredit "ring muay thai" and then shows a standard muay thai leg kick as some secret "muay boran" technique.

    Go with real muay thai from Thailand and you'll have access to as much of the real traditional stuff as you can learn. Go with t3h s3cr3t d3@dly and you're probably going to be taken for a ride. I will say Col Amnat's stuff is pretty good though.
    Last edited by Pork Chop; 12-02-2009 at 03:26 PM. Reason: reorganizing my thoughts
    What would happen if a year-old baby fell from a fourth-floor window onto the head of a burly truck driver, standing on the sidewalk?
    It's practically certain that the truckman would be knocked unconscious. He might die of brain concussion or a broken neck.
    Even an innocent little baby can become a dangerous missile WHEN ITS BODY-WEIGHT IS SET INTO FAST MOTION.
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    Muay Thai to face "real Chinese kung fu"

    http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/cndy/20...nt_9082164.htm


    The Shaolin Temple may have sidestepped a challenge to Chinese kungfu, but another prominent school has stepped in to pick up the gauntlet.

    Five famous professional Thai Boxers offered a challenge, claiming that they wanted to "wipe out the Shaolin Temple".

    "Shaolin kungfu is a lie by these monks to Chinese Buddhists, and Chinese kungfu is nothing compared with ours," said one of the five Thai boxers who is ready to take on masters from the famous temple.

    "If they accept our challenge, we'll win 5 to 0."

    But Shaolin responded by saying the provocative words were "ridiculous", refusing to reply to the "secular challenge".

    Zheng Shumin from Shaolin Temple said the temple is a holy Buddhist place where monks' primary concern is Zen practice and they would not get into contests with secular people.

    "We receive so many challenges like this every year, we just don't want to reply," Zheng said. "We think this is hype from the Thai boxers and the organizers of the competition."

    "In the history of Shaolin Temple, we never challenge or agree to fight others," said Zheng.

    However, followers of Emei kungfu, another important school of martial arts in China, considers this a challenge that "any kungfu practitioner with a sense of justice should face."

    Wang Jian, director of the Emei Martial Arts Association, and his senior disciple Huang Lin, entered the contest "to let the Thai boxers know that Chinese kungfu is never easy to beat."

    "I couldn't bear it anymore ... after the public and all my fellow disciples urged me to show them real Chinese kungfu," Wang said.

    "This is not only disrespectful to Chinese kungfu, it is also disrespectful to our nation," said Zhang Ji from Emei Martial Arts Association.

    "As disciples of kungfu, whether from Shaolin, Emei, Wudang, or anywhere else, we should stand up to such defiance," he said.

    The five boxers from Thailand will be in China for the contest on Dec 19 in Foshan, Guangdong province, the hometown of late action star Bruce Lee.

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    this has already been posted bubba

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    Oops, my bad. Been offline for awhile and didn't catch it.

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    I'm going to the local chapter of the knights of columbus and challenging them!


    lol @ the thais for making such a ludicrous approach. They are in a monastery for pete's sake. Go challenge one of the wu guans.
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    you think they would have learned after what happened with oyamas guys and lui hailong

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