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    Wing Chun Stance

    For those that posted or made a thread earlier about the wing chun stance, I cant find the thread because the second page was cut in half…

    But here’s my input, and I hope all is find, because last time I had a student posted it and he was kick off this forum…

    You can search the files he was never out of line but was only under attack because of this article.

    http://www.detroitwingchun.com/kenart1.htm

    I hope it works this time with out a serious fight…


    Take care,


    Ali Rahim.

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    To be frank (and when aren't I?), I think you've just severely over-complicated and over-analyzed -- to the point of absurdity -- what is essentially a very simple thing. People don't learn how to use their bodies by reference to vectors, triangles, etc. They learn to use their bodies through performing tasks that require them to use their bodies.

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    Man, you’re 100% right on the mark.



    Everything I said in that article simply were things that I’ve heard, studied and leant from many different masters from different lineages over the years, I only used math to prove their point…

    You’re 100% correct; for the common mind, but the scholar always searches from things far outside of just the physical realm, perhaps more understanding outside of the mistakes, pain, and with conflicting and confused answers that the body may bring.

    Some people just learn differently then others, and I’m only here to help the others who just want I different point of view.

    Take care,


    Ali Rahim.

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    Man, you’re 100% right on the mark.



    Everything I said in that article simply were things that I’ve heard, studied and leant from many different masters from different lineages over the years, I only used math to prove their point…

    You’re 100% correct; for the common mind, but the scholar always searches from things far outside of just the physical realm, perhaps more understanding outside of the mistakes, pain, and with conflicting and confused answers that the body may bring.

    Some people just learn differently then others, and I’m only here to help the others who just want a different point of view.

    Take care,


    Ali Rahim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by t_niehoff View Post
    To be frank (and when aren't I?), I think you've just severely over-complicated and over-analyzed -- to the point of absurdity -- what is essentially a very simple thing. People don't learn how to use their bodies by reference to vectors, triangles, etc. They learn to use their bodies through performing tasks that require them to use their bodies.

    Your view is too generized.

    There are certain details which is needed on the Vectors analysis for communication purpose.

    and

    To learn to use bodies, depend on what is the tasks often needs prerequisite training/conditioning which involve details process steps and explain via vectors analysis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hendrik View Post
    Your view is too generized.

    There are certain details which is needed on the Vectors analysis for communication purpose.

    and

    To learn to use bodies, depend on what is the tasks often needs prerequisite training/conditioning which involve details process steps and explain via vectors analysis.
    Funny, then, how our WCK ancestor's -- you know, the guys on the Red Boats who were illiterate actors (the lowest of the low, on the same rung as prostitutes) -- were able to develop and teach WCK. Or do you think they knew about vector analysis?

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    Quote Originally Posted by t_niehoff View Post
    Funny, then, how our WCK ancestor's -- you know, the guys on the Red Boats who were illiterate actors (the lowest of the low, on the same rung as prostitutes) -- were able to develop and teach WCK. Or do you think they knew about vector analysis?

    1, are they all irriterate?

    Not true at all.

    a,
    Opera is an educational role in ancient China, That is the communication channel.
    Opera deal with describing the history or stories of Chinese, thus the producer..the actors who needs to memorized scripts....etc cannot be irriterate.

    b, as we know the uprising of the red boat opera actors is a full uprising which intended to set up their own kingdom. and we know the history characters of these group/team of people are elite not some irriterate.




    2, Vector Analysis is the term I use to describe what the ancestors mean.


    3, SLT is develop by those who related to the Emei goldern peak temple, and as everyone knows Buddhist Monks are one of the high educated group in ancient China.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hendrik View Post
    1, are they all irriterate?

    Not true at all.

    a,
    Opera is an educational role in ancient China, That is the communication channel.
    Opera deal with describing the history or stories of Chinese, thus the producer..the actors who needs to memorized scripts....etc cannot be irriterate.

    b, as we know the uprising of the red boat opera actors is a full uprising which intended to set up their own kingdom. and we know the history characters of these group/team of people are elite not some irriterate.




    2, Vector Analysis is the term I use to describe what the ancestors mean.


    3, SLT is develop by those who related to the Emei goldern peak temple, and as everyone knows Buddhist Monks are one of the high educated group in ancient China.
    The actors in the Opera were illiterate as were most of the buddhist monks (even the 6th Partriach couldn't read). Stop trying to rewrite history and redefining terms to support your view. The chinese didn't have vector analysis; it was developed in the very late 1800s and early 1900s in the West. It wasn't adopted into China until much later. And certainly neither our ancestors nor the monks would have learned it.

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