Immortal Methods
No facts, no stats, no examples, no heuristics, not even another feeble attempt to to pass on another question and answer session of one nothing, that is it. Oh well of course we both knew that was the only spot left in the corner you painted yourself into.Take a look at the training of all successful MMA fighters.
You and your superior reasoning makes me chuckle.
Tony Jacobs
ng doh luk mun fa kin kwan
"...Therefore the truly great man dwells on what is real
and not what is on the surface,
On the fruit and not the flower.
Therefore accept the one and reject the other. "
World Hung Fa Yi Wing Chun Kung Fu Association
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The facts, stats, examples are easy to find. If you believe that there are some non-MMA trained fighters who have proven consistent, success in MMA, then please enlighten us. What, can't name any? Hmmm.Originally Posted by canglong
How about this, try naming some MMA-trained fighters who have proven, consistent success in MMA. I'll bet that was easy. All you had to do was pick ANYONE.
Yeah, that's sure some corner I painted myself into.
Immortal Methods
Naming an MMA fighter does not satisfy your argument. Proving no one in the world that doesn't cross train can't be an MMA fighter will. How about that good luck.The ONLY way people in WCK are going to be able to beat MMA fighters is by cross-training extensively, and by going and training/sparring with MMA fighters and putting in hundreds of hours sparring. In other words, by becoming MMA fighters.
Tony Jacobs
ng doh luk mun fa kin kwan
"...Therefore the truly great man dwells on what is real
and not what is on the surface,
On the fruit and not the flower.
Therefore accept the one and reject the other. "
World Hung Fa Yi Wing Chun Kung Fu Association
Southern Shaolin Kung Fu Global Discussion Forum
Banned
Well, let's see how difficult that is to understand.
If you understand what a person NEEDS to fight MMA and how they get those necessioties, it is simple.
To have a fighitng chance at MMA, besides being in very good condition, you need to have solid stand-up, clinch, and ground games. And that means you need to cross-train in those areas -- at least to anyone other than the deluded WCK-covers-all-ranges camp (who, not suprisingly, can't provide any evidence fortheir views). Not only that, but developing good fighting skills comes primarily from quality sparring, with a person's skill level moreor less corresponding to the amount of quality sparring they've done.
Ok, so where can a person learn and develop solid, integrated stand-up, clinch, and ground games -- which requies you spar with stand-up, clinch, and ground against very good fighters? MMA. Can you name another disciplie that provides that?
Which is precisely why ALL MMA fighters -- anyone you care to name-- has done that. And why you can't name ANYONE consistently successful in MMA who hasn't.
Of course, all good MMA fighters recognize this. Guess what groups doesn't recognize it?
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