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    What forms are in your Shaolin regimen now?

    Here are the Shaolin forms that I am currently practicing on a regular basis (at least once a week, hopefully more). Since this is the Shaolin forum, I'm restricting my list to Shaolin forms. Currently I'm only doing Songshan Shaolin forms.

    baduanjin
    xiaohongquan
    dahongquan
    qixingquan
    changhu xinyimen
    taizu changquan
    tongbi luohan
    qixing tanglang
    qiang (Taguo version)
    dao (Taguo version)

    I've shown you mine. Let me see yours.
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    I started practicing a mizong quan form I learned several years ago. I don't know how it is Shaolin related (if at all) but a Taiwanese teacher used to refer to it as Shaolin when seeing us practice. I'm not sure what it's called, but it looks very similiar to some versions of the praying mantis form "xiao hu yan".

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    The curriculum I teach from white to black is:


    Level 1
    Wu Bu Quan - five step (Shifu Yan Ming version)
    Xiao Lohan Quan - small arhat

    Level 2
    Xiao Hong Quan - small frame
    Da Hong Quan - large frame
    Chang Quan - long fist
    Ba Duan Jin - 8 section brocade

    Level 3
    Xiao Pao Quan - small cannon
    Da Pao Quan - big cannon
    Wu Xing Ba Fa - 5 animal, 8 method
    Yi Jin Jing - muscle/tendon changes
    Qi Xing Quan - seven star

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    Right now I teach and practice mostly these Shaolin sets:

    Ba Dun Jin
    Liu He Gong
    Chan Yuan Gong and Chan Yuan Quan
    Luohan 13 Gong and Luohan 13 Quan
    Wubu Quan
    Xiao Lian Huan Quan
    Dan Shi
    Jingang Bashi
    Wuxing LianHuan Quan
    Taizu Chang Quan 32 postures
    Xiao Hong Quan (Lao and standard versions)
    Xiao Hong quan Er Lu
    Da Hong Quan yi Lu
    Lao Hong Quan 1-4 Lu
    Luohan 18 Shou 1-8 Lu
    Rou Quan Yi Lu
    Ru Quan Er Lu
    Rou Quan 108 postures
    Ru Xing Chui
    Yuan Hou Quan (monkey ape)
    Parts of Xin Yi Ba
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    I practice daily from 11:00 to 13:00 outside :

    little jogging
    Stretching
    Baduanjin with abdominal breathing
    10 Stance Training ( to to hold the positions each time a bit longer )
    Wu Bu Quan

    Xiao Hong Quan and Mei Hua Quan,

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    i only practice xiaohongquan and dahongquan anymore for empty hand sets, ive pretty much stopped all my other form practice, but i just love these 2 for some reason... my dahongquan is kind of personal though. i was taught a couple different versions, which i used to practice seperately, a couple of years ago i combined them and only practice that version now.

    im weird i know
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucas View Post
    i only practice xiaohongquan and dahongquan anymore for empty hand sets, ive pretty much stopped all my other form practice, but i just love these 2 for some reason... my dahongquan is kind of personal though. i was taught a couple different versions, which i used to practice seperately, a couple of years ago i combined them and only practice that version now.

    im weird i know
    No, every monk who learned these routines throughout history did the exact same thing.

    That's what keeps them alive and not static zombie "monkey see, monkey do" KF.
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    Agreed, that's not weird at all, Lucas

    I've always loved xiaohong and dahong. Like you, I was taught a few different versions. With dahong, I'm currently doing the version that my Shifu Yan Fei propounds, since I'm training under him. His is closer to the Taguo version, abbreviated from the version I learned from Shi Decheng. I'm a little concerned about the next time I see Decheng, since it will be hard to revert, however, I think he'll understand. He's pretty laid back that way. My xiaohong stays true to his version. I've never learned Yan Fei's xiaohong. I've only picked up a few things from Shi Guolin, Shi Xinghao and Shi Sugang (and those versions are pretty similar).
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    my xiaohong ive kept almost the same way that my sifu taught me, ive updated a couple of things based on what ive seen other people do (shaolin vids ive bought), very minor changes though that doesnt really effect the form. however i do have a septerate version of it that ive developed for myself. lol i call it my 'street' version (for lack of a better name). everything is still in there, but ive just raised up the stances and closed up my guard, and switched a lot to fists(personally im more comfortable using fists then palms in sparring/fightin). its a TON of fun to mess around with.

    its just for me

    i see it as a different thing than the traditional xiaohong set that i do.

    lol you'll get a kick out of this, ive been working on developing a nunchaku set, (again just for myself and because its fun) based around these two sets as well as traditional japanese nunchaku methods and techniques. this is for just a single set of nunchaku so there is still empty hand work in it. its not flashy at all. mainly a colleciton of nunchaku techniques im good at, but i needed a way to put it together in a sequence i can maintain, so i chose to use those two sets to draw from

    all this stuff is just me having fun with my kungfu though.
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    O.K. here are some of mine.

    Wu Bu Quan
    Lian Huan Quan
    Xiao Hong Quan 24 & 54
    Tong Bi Quan
    Da Hong Quan
    Chao Yang Quan
    Ba Duan Jin
    Liu He Quan
    Lo Han Quan
    Hu Quan Yi Liu & Er Liu
    Qi Xing Quan
    Gong Fu Quan
    Tai Tzu Chang Quan
    Shaolin Tai Chi

    I practice these most often cause they are in our curriculum up to level 5

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucas View Post
    my xiaohong ive kept almost the same way that my sifu taught me, ive updated a couple of things based on what ive seen other people do (shaolin vids ive bought), very minor changes though that doesnt really effect the form. however i do have a septerate version of it that ive developed for myself. lol i call it my 'street' version (for lack of a better name). everything is still in there, but ive just raised up the stances and closed up my guard, and switched a lot to fists(personally im more comfortable using fists then palms in sparring/fightin). its a TON of fun to mess around with.

    its just for me

    i see it as a different thing than the traditional xiaohong set that i do.

    lol you'll get a kick out of this, ive been working on developing a nunchaku set, (again just for myself and because its fun) based around these two sets as well as traditional japanese nunchaku methods and techniques. this is for just a single set of nunchaku so there is still empty hand work in it. its not flashy at all. mainly a colleciton of nunchaku techniques im good at, but i needed a way to put it together in a sequence i can maintain, so i chose to use those two sets to draw from

    all this stuff is just me having fun with my kungfu though.
    A really good workout is to do all your Shaolin forms with a staff (but don't change any of the movements), and then do them with a spear, and then double knives (dao) and then double sword (jian).
    You will vastly improve your martial art skills and your understanding of why the postures and movements are done that way in the particular form you are working on.
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    Hi shaolin, is this xiao bao quan you train from the gong li quan style?

    Do you know any videos of xiao bao quan?

    Tks

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    in no particular order;

    Da Tong Bei
    Xiao Hong Quan
    Da Hong Quan Yi Lu
    Chang Hu Xin Yi Men (Yi Lu with the ending from San Lu tacked on for performance purposes)
    Damo Jian
    Ba Duan Jin
    Qi Xing Tang Lang

    Currently learning Qi Xing Quan (man that Qi Xing Bu is rough on the right quadriceps)

    Two staff styles: Xiao Hou Gun (I have also seen it called Shaolin Short Stick; the staff should only come to the armpit of the practitioner and is held almost like a sword, three palm lengths from the bottom. Wonder if anyone else is familiar with this?)

    Another that elsewhere is usually called "Yin Shou Gun" but as I understand it yin shou gun is the name of a class of staff forms derived from the hand positions used to grip the weapon and not necessarily the name of the form itself. I have been told that this form is actually a modern amalgamation of methods used as an introduction into staff and spear and is not a traditional form.

    Lately I've been focusing on Da Hong (this version:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1h8pyH7Q3Y)
    and the staff methods about 5 days a week. But I try and practice each of the above mentioned forms at least once a week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sal Canzonieri View Post
    A really good workout is to do all your Shaolin forms with a staff (but don't change any of the movements), and then do them with a spear, and then double knives (dao) and then double sword (jian).
    You will vastly improve your martial art skills and your understanding of why the postures and movements are done that way in the particular form you are working on.
    im going to start that tonight. thanks
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    Since I teach, I pretty much touch on everyone one of these forms at least once a week.

    Lien Huan
    Lohan Shi Ba Shou
    Lien Bu Quan
    Gung Li Quan
    San Tien Quan
    Jing Long Quan
    Hong Quan
    Ba Duan Jin (I just learned it)
    Chao Yang Quan (This is actually not in my current kwoons curriculum, but I use it for competitions, so I practice it every once in a while)
    Wu Bu Quan (Also not in our curriculum but I like the form so I practice it every once in a while as well)
    And of course the 4 Primary weapons. Long Fist - Spear/Staff/Broadsword/Straight Sword

    Also currently learning a Southern panther form. Just throwing that one in there.

    I do have a couple of forms from the past that I would love to re-learn.
    Xiao Hu Yan and Xiao Hong Quan. I remember bits and pieces only.
    Master of Shaolin I-Ching Bu Ti, GunGoPow and I Hung Wei Lo styles.

    I am seeking sparring partner. Any level. Looking for blondes or redhead. 5'2" to 5'9". Between 115-135 weight class. Females between 17-30 only need apply. Will extensively work on grappling.

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